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Re: From where I left

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post #14

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World does need unlimited amount of software and I think it can even be mathematically proven. Amount of software required grows exponentially because every piece of software then requires even more software on top of it - just like managing security issues in al the software built, etc.

That sounds just awful. Like an aggressive cancer that spreads until it kills the host and itself.

Isn't it the same thing as the human race? It depends who you're asking.

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post #29

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But if you wanted to have influence without a big pay check, why not join Valkey? Redis, the company, in your absence has gotten a reputation as a predatory company that has attacked open source projects in other to further those goals. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/redis... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39858144 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42239607

I want to help Redis to find a good path forward (while I respect the work of everybody). I was sponsored by this company for ages, I know the core hackers there, and they are strong and are good people. I talked with the CEO and he is very interested in finding novel ways to play, so I rejoined Redis and not ValKey. Honestly even if Redis public image has not been stellar recently, I know the people that work at Red…

At least you go into this seeing the reputation that Redis Labs has worked hard on earning recently.

Could you not have stayed separate from them while contributing again?

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Is Claude really that much better than ChatGPT? I Use ChatGPT Plus on a daily basis and have no complaints but is it worth cancelling it and get one for Claude?

If you find ChatGPT useful, pay just one month of Claude AI and use both. I bet you'll discover that Claude AI can help you a great deal more. If that will be the case, you gained a much better AI assistant. Otherwise it's just 20 bucks... For me the difference is huge.

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post #15

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I covered this in the blog post: no big money involved, I asked to rejoin and without a big paycheck on purpose because to be free to act you should not get too much money, otherwise it's all fake.

I love this sentiment, I guess you have to have some sort of basic economical confidence to be able to afford this.

Yes, past Redis venture provided me covered enough that I can avoid trying to maximize the money side. Money still useful of course but one has to balance I believe.

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#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if you wanted to have influence without a big pay check, why not join Valkey? Redis, the company, in your absence has gotten a reputation as a predatory company that has attacked open source projects in other to further those goals. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/redis... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39858144 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42239607

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

The player in this context has an outsized influence on the game, the people managing the game are using their work, and contributing more to it is effectively influencing the game in a big way.

I don't really hate or care about anyone in this game, but it's a non-trivial move in the game.

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#46
post #39

Antirez, I am just wondering about something... Given that you probably already have retirement-sized exit from Redis. Isn't it more liberating to start something completely new? Or maybe forked Redis as the foundation of something new? Is there a need to re-join the old company?

That's a good question. The problem is that: I would end doing something in the vector search space probably, or other stuff that are tangent to AI. I can do the same but in public, as examples of hacking with this stuff, to share with the community. In the process I can add a solid vector indexing capability to Redis. It looks like a nice way to continue hacking.

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#47
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I covered this in the blog post: no big money involved, I asked to rejoin and without a big paycheck on purpose because to be free to act you should not get too much money, otherwise it's all fake.

But if you wanted to have influence without a big pay check, why not join Valkey? Redis, the company, in your absence has gotten a reputation as a predatory company that has attacked open source projects in other to further those goals. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/redis... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39858144 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42239607

> why not join Valkey?

Valkey is making it possible for hyperscalers to continue appropriating open source and charging fat margins to everyone else.

In a sense, Valkey is the bad guy here.

And just look at all the support Valkey is getting from Amazon, Google, Oracle, etc. They're perpetuating the problem.

The same thing happened with Elasticsearch. Unfortunately ICs without decision-making power started lambasting the Elasticsearch leadership for attempting to fend off AWS and their ilk from absorbing all of the revenues derived from their hard work.

Open source is just a commodity feature for hyperscalers. It's time we stop giving it to them for free.

This is all about power. We're ceding it to trillion dollar companies because we've been trained that "open source" is ethical. Meanwhile, we don't question the ethics of these companies profiting off of this work while charging us absurd margins. None of the hyperscaler infra is open source.

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Love this, welcome back Salvatore -- hopefully it's fulfilling and fun. You authoring some new vector primitives seem to indicate to me you might be back in your sweet spot.

Getting a 100x engineer back to making new things is great for the world.

Some thoughts on vectors and embeddings and etc; there was a spate of companies that launched RAG-related "new" databases a couple of years ago, and obviously we have plugins to major databases now. I appreciate the idea that some low level tools, properly tuned, will be maximally useful. There was a lottt of overhead playing with those vector dbs, and often in testing I would just want to throw up like 10,000 embeddings and do some things with them; I didn't want to have to choose a pytorch variant in a docker image to do so.

Anyway. It makes me wonder what else would be useful to have on the AI support side. I'll look forward to playing around with the module.

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#49
That is great news.

Redis remains my favorite database. I've had the opportunity to work extensively with it, not only professionally but also through open-source projects like redis-dict[0], a Python dictionary with Redis as the backend.

How can we follow your progress on the vector set feature?

[0] https://github.com/Attumm/redis-dict

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And Valkey with backing from AWS, GCP, and Oracle don't make any money at all ... wait aren't those trillion dollar monopolies? The pot calling the kettle black

Valkey also has the backing of The Linux Foundation. So maybe it just has a lot of backing in general. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/linux-foundation-launc... BTW are you an employee of Redis? You seem to have created this account just to reply to me.

And who funds the Linux Foundation? - it is the CSPs themselves - https://chatgpt.com/share/67587e4c-bde8-800b-9f0a-fc824d3d6f...

Any thoughts on CSPs making money from open source projects while the open source developers (e.g., Redis, Mongo, Hashi) suffer)?

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