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Firefox removes "do not track" feature support

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Re: Firefox removes "do not track" feature support

#61
Removing this feature harms user agency. This will result in Firefox users having to deal with more annoying consent prompts.

Transcend Consent Management's default configuration opts users out of every unessential tracking purpose (and suppresses automatic consent prompts) whenever DNT is enabled, but only opts users out of "Sale/sharing of info" when only GPC is enabled.

Removing this centralized privacy signal means some users cannot express full opt outs to Transcend Consent Management by default without having to interact with annoying banners.

I believe this change was steamrolled without taking in proper consideration and feedback from the web community. Mozilla made this change so fast that barely anyone noticed the issue before it got closed[1]. To add insult to injury, they've configured their Bugzilla to disallow further comments from non-Mozilla employees after issues are closed.

I shared similar feedback with the Chrome team in 2023 when they were proposing to remove DNT[2]. They considered my feedback and currently DNT is still in Chrome, with its removal indefinitely postponed.

1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1928087

2. https://issues.chromium.org/issues/41440843#comment12

Re: Firefox removes "do not track" feature support

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post #22

About time. It has never achieved anything meaningful for protecting your privacy, if not helping the opposite by providing yet another signal to help uniquely identify a user and improve tracking. Although, anti-tracking in general is basically fighting a losing battle. Go to https://amiunique.org/ and you'll see why. I use Firefox with all possible protection mechanics -- "strict" tracking protection mode, uBlock o…

> Although, anti-tracking in general is basically fighting a losing battle. Go to https://amiunique.org/ and you'll see why.

The goal shouldn't be to appear non-unique. There are too many little things that will out you. Even if you somehow account for every single one of them today your next browser update could enable more and you can't trust that amiunique.org is looking at every identifying data point either. It's an arms race you're going to lose.

What you want is to be differently unique for each website you visit. Even better if you have JS disabled by default and sites can't collect 90% of the data points your browser exposes at all. The best protection you could get would be to change up IP addresses via VPN and randomize your user-agent and other tells.

Re: Firefox removes "do not track" feature support

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post #16

I understand that many people here have a bad taste of Mozilla's recent actions in many aspects. But the reality here is that this is at worst removing something that almost nobody respected. It was based on honor system and even in Switzerland they do have random inspections for honor system. Browsers never had any enforcement of this feature. And ironically it was used as additional data point of tracking privacy a…

Medium supported it for ages. Tools like Matomo came with support for it by default. Firefox has implemented the replacement, Global Privacy Control. It has the exact same problems and isn't respected either, except even fewer websites have implementations that respect GPC. It's not a real solution to the normalised cyberstalking websites practice today, but it's also not entirely useless.

GPC is also a narrower signal implying a smaller subset of privacy choices.

Re: Firefox removes "do not track" feature support

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what IE 10 did. It led all the major advertisers to make public statements that they were going to ignore the header as a form of protest.

Sounds good to me. When (major advertiser/website detected): Prompt user, "Warning: (Advertiser/website) insists on tracking you, and have made public statements affirming this position. Your privacy is not enforceable on this website."

more like class action or regulatory step in. in theory market transactions are based on mutual consent. if consent isn't respected, then that's a problem.

Re: Firefox removes "do not track" feature support

#67
I was at Mozilla when this was implemented.

It was completely optional for websites to support this. A few did at first.

A lot of people internally wanted it to be on-by-default, but the argument was that if it was, nobody would respect it – after all, what tracking platform would willingly only track the 0.1% of people who went into the settings to enable it? (Internet Explorer did eventually enable it by default, which got them good press but ultimately killed the feature since everyone stopped respecting it.)

Overall, I'm happy to see this sunsetted. I don't think it actually did anything – in fact, I think it implies that it did way more than it did, so it was just a faux feeling of security.

(All that being said, I would love if the cookie modals on each site became browser-level, but I'm sure there's many reasons that hasn't happened yet. And I suspect a bit reason starts with a G and ends with an Oogle.)

Re: Firefox removes "do not track" feature support

#69

I think the browser should behave differently when Do Not Track is enabled. Instead of whatever it does now, it should be updated so that when the user selects it the browser automatically installs uBO, privacy badger, etc. After all, that's what the user really needs to have the browser respect their wishes of not being tracked. So rather than eliminate it with another thing that is nothing more than a name changes,…

That already exists in forms of privacy protection settings on browsers. DNT was a very specific feature. Privacy protections were not removed, DNT was removed.

Re: Firefox removes "do not track" feature support

#70
post #61

Removing this feature harms user agency. This will result in Firefox users having to deal with more annoying consent prompts. Transcend Consent Management's default configuration opts users out of every unessential tracking purpose (and suppresses automatic consent prompts) whenever DNT is enabled, but only opts users out of "Sale/sharing of info" when only GPC is enabled. Removing this centralized privacy signal mea…

> Removing this feature harms user agency

It doesn't, because nobody respects it.

It is actually harmful to have a feature that misrepresents its efficiency to users, especially when it comes to privacy and security.

Nobody should ever feel that they will not be tracked because they enabled do-not-track, because it's wrong.

Removing it is the right thing to do because of this.

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