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Re: Rust 0.3 released

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Post by eholk »

lbotos wrote: post #9

Does anyone know the origin of the name? I did a quick look on wikipedia/github/project site but couldn't find anything conclusive.

I heard that Rust was meant to capture the spirit of the language. It was meant not to have a lot of knew ideas (although, as it turns out, language design always leads to new ideas). We have a sort of informal rule to not include research that's less than 10 years old, so we can build off of ideas that have had a chance to prove themselves. We're bending that rule a bit now, of course. The idea was that Rust would codify and provide language support for patterns that have worked well in making large software like Firefox fast and safe.

Re: Rust 0.3 released

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Post by sbmassey »

Rust is the most promising up-and-coming programming language, in my opinion.

Finally a programming language with decent syntax that does RAII, and understands the need to restrict garbage collection!

Thanks!

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Post by kibwen »

tallowen wrote: post #13

What are Mozilla's plans for integrating rust into Firefox? Is this a mostly theoretical constraint or is there a plan to have this implemented?

Rust is being used to implement an experimental new browser engine with a focus on concurrency in order to better take advantage of highly-parallel and power-limited hardware. It's known as Servo,[1] and it's still strictly in research mode; there are no concrete plans to integrate anything into Firefox as of yet. Even if there were, Rust itself won't be at 1.0 until sometime next year, and it would be quite a while beyond that before Servo had any semblance of feature parity with Gecko.

[1] https://github.com/mozilla/servo

Re: Rust 0.3 released

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Post by [deleted] »

zem wrote: post #7

i love that they're thinking of syntax sugar right in the early stages. a lot of the "language semantics are all that matters" crowd scoff at sugar, but i think they underestimate how much syntax contributes to the pleasantness of using the language.

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Re: Rust 0.3 released

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Post by Tuna-Fish »

lbotos wrote: post #9

Does anyone know the origin of the name? I did a quick look on wikipedia/github/project site but couldn't find anything conclusive.

What eholk said. Also, it's partly for the Chrome/Rust divide of web browsers -- Rust is designed for the "below-the-bonnet", "plumbing" parts.

Re: Rust 0.3 released

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Post by cpeterso »

zem wrote: post #7

i love that they're thinking of syntax sugar right in the early stages. a lot of the "language semantics are all that matters" crowd scoff at sugar, but i think they underestimate how much syntax contributes to the pleasantness of using the language.

Interesting. I like many of Rust's language concepts (and I have contributed some small fixes to the Rust runtime), but (to my eyes :) the syntax is snowballing into a hybrid of C++ and APL.

Re: Rust 0.3 released

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Post by pcwalton »

cpeterso wrote: post #19
zem wrote: post #7

i love that they're thinking of syntax sugar right in the early stages. a lot of the "language semantics are all that matters" crowd scoff at sugar, but i think they underestimate how much syntax contributes to the pleasantness of using the language.

Interesting. I like many of Rust's language concepts (and I have contributed some small fixes to the Rust runtime), but (to my eyes :) the syntax is snowballing into a hybrid of C++ and APL.

What in particular do you not like? To me the proposed stuff on the roadmap fixes the problems I see (changing "::" to ".", camel case for type names, "alt" -> "match", => after pattern matches, #debug to debug!, removing argument modes -- no guarantees that we implement these of course, they need consensus), but I'm curious as to what your thoughts are.
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