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Post by lelandfe »

Quekid5 wrote: post #846
cess11 wrote: post #840

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A precondition is likely that one has mainly watched CGI-heavy movies for most of one's life. Compared to old school analog movies or fairly raw photography that looks as fake as the Coca-Cola Santa. There's a rather obvious lack of detail that real photography would have catched.

> A precondition is likely that one has mainly watched CGI-heavy movies for most of one's life. Indeed, a great (if counterintuitive) example of this is The Wolf of Wall Street. I bet a lot of people would be surprised at just how much CGI is used in that just for set/location.

Wow, you were not kidding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pocfRVAH9yU

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Post by soulofmischief »

pen2l wrote: post #80

Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

Shorts are designed to trade your valuable attention for trite, low-effort content. Most decent shorts are just clips of longer-form content.

Do yourself a favor and avoid that kind of content, opting instead for long-form consumption. The discovery patterns are different, but you're less inclined to encounter fake content if you develop a trust network of good channels.

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Post by kranke155 »

pawelduda wrote: post #106
kranke155 wrote: post #71

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Sora was not really that big of a revolution, it was just catching up with competitors. I would even say in gen video they are behind right now.

What is the best model in your opinion right now?

There are a lot of them, but Runway seems to have good controls and they are aligned with people who will actually use it - filmmakers and content creators.

In terms of image quality. Runway, Luma, and a few of the Chinese models all give "ok" results. I haven't seen anything from Sora to convince me they have done any kind of significant leap.

The issue there is alignment. It's cheap for Runway or Luma to continue in this path since it's their only path to profitability, they do nothing else.

But for OpenAI, I don't think this is near their top list of priorities. I doubt that they will be able to keep adding features like their competitors. Seems to me like this is the equivalent of a side project for them.

edit after watching direct comparison videos, I've changed my mind. Sora is ahead.

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Post by kranke155 »

pawelduda wrote: post #106
kranke155 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sora was not really that big of a revolution, it was just catching up with competitors. I would even say in gen video they are behind right now.

What is the best model in your opinion right now?

UPDATE: After watching direct comparison videos between prompts, I do think now that Sora is ahead. It's not a huge leap but it seems much better at keeping fine details roughly aligned.

For anyone who is curious where to find tons of SORA videos, go to reddit r/aivideo

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Post by n1b0m »

superfrank wrote: post #420
lelandfe wrote: post #285

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I saw my first AI video that completely fooled commenters: https://imgur.com/a/cbjVKMU This was not marked as AI-generated and commenters were in awe at this fuzzy train, missing the "AIGC" signs. I'm quite nervous for the future.

I know there are people acting like this is obvious that this is AI, but I get why people wouldn't catch it, even if they know that AI is capable of creating a video like this. A) Most of the give aways are pretty subtle and not what viewers are focused on. Sure, if you look closely the fur blends in with the pavement in some places, but I'm not going to spend 5 minutes investigating every video I see for hints of AI…

I agree. Apart from the text appearing backwards it all looked pretty real to me.

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Post by marci »

matwood wrote: post #807
lelandfe wrote: post #285

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I saw my first AI video that completely fooled commenters: https://imgur.com/a/cbjVKMU This was not marked as AI-generated and commenters were in awe at this fuzzy train, missing the "AIGC" signs. I'm quite nervous for the future.

The bigger problem is that people think something this ridiculous could happen.

Weirder things have been created. I could definitely see one being made for a movie.

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Post by netdevphoenix »

nihil2501 wrote: post #752
superfrank wrote: post #420

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I know there are people acting like this is obvious that this is AI, but I get why people wouldn't catch it, even if they know that AI is capable of creating a video like this. A) Most of the give aways are pretty subtle and not what viewers are focused on. Sure, if you look closely the fur blends in with the pavement in some places, but I'm not going to spend 5 minutes investigating every video I see for hints of AI…

I'm beginning to write off most images as AI. I actually think that's where this is all headed.

that's the easiest position imo. It's AI unless proven otherwise. No one has the time to place this much detailed on a random video when the purpose of the video is just entertainment. What this might lead to though is people losing (or not learning) the skills needed to separate real content from AI generated content

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Post by i5heu »

liendolucas wrote: post #856

In a not so distant future we might need to have some sort of regulation that forces uploaders (or content creators) to declare if videos have been generated with ai tech or not and depending on the content such declaration might carry legal consequences. On the other side hosting platforms should display clearly if such content was declared ai generated or not as well. Right now I can't see a simple and good enough…

Or we will have some cryptographic going on that is connected with your ID to prove that you are indeed human.

Trust on a society level is some other beast of difficult problem.

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Post by solfox »

pen2l wrote: post #80

Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

On the other hand, because these tools like this are being made available before output is perfected, you and many others are being trained in AI discernment; being able to detect fake things will be a helpful skill to have for some time: another form of critical thinking.

It would be FAR worse if a privately held advanced AI's outputs were unleashed without the population being at least somewhat cautious of everything. The real danger imho comes from private silos of advanced general intelligence that aren't shared and used to gain power, control, and money.

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Post by OskarS »

callc wrote: post #715
computerex wrote: post #416

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They should have kept this amazing tech under the wraps because you have a bad feeling about it? Hate to break it to you, but there have been fake videos on the internet ever since it has existed. There are more ways to fake videos than GenAI. If you haven't been consuming everything on the internet with a high alert bs sensor, then that's an issue of its own. You shouldn't trust things on the internet anyway unless…

Amazing tech != socially good Of course, as knowledgeable people in tech we can look at the last few years of AI improvements as technically remarkable. pen2l is talking about social impact. I hope our trade can collectively become adults at the big table of Real Engineers. Consider the impact on humanity of your work. If you don’t care, then you are either recklessly irresponsible, don’t know any better, or are inte…

Very well put. There's always been this Silicon Valley instinct that all technological advance is always good for humanity, and it's just not that simple.
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