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Post by sekai »

sergiogdr wrote: post #445
computerex wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should have kept this amazing tech under the wraps because you have a bad feeling about it? Hate to break it to you, but there have been fake videos on the internet ever since it has existed. There are more ways to fake videos than GenAI. If you haven't been consuming everything on the internet with a high alert bs sensor, then that's an issue of its own. You shouldn't trust things on the internet anyway unless…

> If you haven't been consuming everything on the internet with a high alert bs sensor, then that's an issue of its own "just be privileged as I was to get all the necessary education to be able to not be fooled by this tech". Yeah, very realistic and compassionate.

> "just be privileged as I was to get all the necessary education to be able to not be fooled by this tech". Yeah, very realistic and compassionate.

This has nothing to do with privilege, a person in Indian slums on his 2005 PC with internet access can have better internet BS radar than an Ivy League student.

Re: Sora is here

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Post by phtrivier »

logicchains wrote: post #819
phtrivier wrote: post #799

Not available in France yet, I'd we interested to know if it's a matter of progressive rollout, or some form of legislation (EU or otherwise ?) that's making OpenAI cautious ? Something like the EU AI Act [1] ? In a sane world, any video produced by Sora would be required to have a form of watermarking that's on par with what intellectual property owners require. We've put people in jail for sharing copyrighted movie…

>any video produced by Sora would be required to have a form of watermarking that's on par with what intellectual property owners require It's a completely different thing. IP owners want watermarks on their IP so they can prosecute people who use their IP without giving credit, nobody's forcing them to watermark it.

I agree that's why they do it.

I happen to think that some states will want to prosecute people who publish realistic-looking AI generated images without making it explicit that they're generated. I'm wondering if watermarking could be an effective tool for that.

(If I was on a bad mood, I would say that we should make it explicit when images are too heavily photoshoped, too ; but that's an other debat, because tools like Sora make manufacturing lies several order of magnitude cheaper.)

Re: Sora is here

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Post by DrScientist »

pen2l wrote: post #80

Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

On the other hand by making public what technologies capabilities are - doesn't it stop the problem of people having this tech in secret and using it before anybody is aware it's even possible?

ie a company developing this tech, keeping under wraps and say only using for special government programmes....

Re: Sora is here

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Post by dale_glass »

quenix wrote: post #212
pen2l wrote: post #80

Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

It saddens me. Innovations in AI 'art' generation (music, audio, photo) have been a net negative to society and are already actively harming the Internet and our media sphere. Like I said in another comment, LLMs are cool and useful, but who in the hell asked for AI art? It's good enough to fool people and break the fragile trust relationship we had with online content, but is also extremely shit and carries no meani…

> Like I said in another comment, LLMs are cool and useful, but who in the hell asked for AI art?

I did. I started messing around with computer graphics on DOS with QBASIC and consider AI art to be just an extension of that.

On the other hand I don't care all that much for LLMs most of the time. They're sometimes useful, but while I find AI art I enjoy very regularly, using a LLM for something is more a once every couple weeks event for me.

Re: Sora is here

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Post by dbspin »

minimaxir wrote: post #104
dbspin wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow they're watermarking videos and limiting them to 720 at the 20 dollar price point? That's a bold move, considering their competition's pricing... https://www.klingai.com/membership/membership-plan Quality seems relatively similar based on the samples I've seen. With the same issues - object permanence, temporal stability, physics comprehension etc, being present in both. Kling has no qualms about copyright violat…

At OpenAI's $20/mo price point, you can also only generate 16 720p 5s videos per month. Kling doesn't seem to have more granular information publically but I suspect it allows for more than 16 videos per month.

You can do more than 16 videos for free on Kling per month. Let alone with their price plans. I'm sure it's not equivalent in capability, but all these models suffer from the same technical issues understanding prompts and maintaining physics / temporal coherence anyway.

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Post by Quekid5 »

cess11 wrote: post #840
superfrank wrote: post #420

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know there are people acting like this is obvious that this is AI, but I get why people wouldn't catch it, even if they know that AI is capable of creating a video like this. A) Most of the give aways are pretty subtle and not what viewers are focused on. Sure, if you look closely the fur blends in with the pavement in some places, but I'm not going to spend 5 minutes investigating every video I see for hints of AI…

A precondition is likely that one has mainly watched CGI-heavy movies for most of one's life. Compared to old school analog movies or fairly raw photography that looks as fake as the Coca-Cola Santa. There's a rather obvious lack of detail that real photography would have catched.

> A precondition is likely that one has mainly watched CGI-heavy movies for most of one's life.

Indeed, a great (if counterintuitive) example of this is The Wolf of Wall Street. I bet a lot of people would be surprised at just how much CGI is used in that just for set/location.

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Post by cobalt60 »

pier25 wrote: post #469
pen2l wrote: post #80

Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

I wish Google would allow me to remove the AI stuff from search results. 99% of the times it's either useless or wrong.

Udm?
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