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Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

I wish Google would allow me to remove the AI stuff from search results. 99% of the times it's either useless or wrong.

I have been using Kagi for a year now and it's been liberating. Its an ad/seo-free search engine.

https://kagi.com/

Sorry for the name dropping, I have no affiliation and am just a very happy user, so I wanted to share it as it felt adequate.

Re: Sora is here

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post #80

Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

They didn’t keep it under wraps, it’s just the team considered the paper shipping not the product. They still shipped the papers that decentralized the knowledge.

Could even argue shipping the product and not the paper would have done more for AI safety, least it would be controlled.

Re: Sora is here

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post #80

Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

I don't even know if this will be possible, or how it would work, but it seems like the next iteration of social media will be based on some verification that the user is not using AI or is a bot. Currently they are all incentivized to not stop bot activity because it increases user counts, ad revenue, etc. Maybe the model is you have to pay per account to use it, or maybe the model will be something else. I doubt th…

> Maybe the model is you have to pay per account to use it

Spammers can afford more money per bot for their operations than the average user can justify to spend on social media.

Re: Sora is here

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I saw my first AI video that completely fooled commenters: https://imgur.com/a/cbjVKMU This was not marked as AI-generated and commenters were in awe at this fuzzy train, missing the "AIGC" signs. I'm quite nervous for the future.

Most people have terrible eyes for distinguishing content. I’ve worked in CG for many years and despite the online nerd fests that decry CG imagery in films, 99% of those people can’t tell what’s CG or not unless it’s incredibly obvious. It’s the same for GenAI, though I think there are more tells. Still, most people cannot tell reality from fiction. If you just tell them it’s real, they’ll most likely believe it.

> Still, most people cannot tell reality from fiction. If you just tell them it’s real, they’ll most likely believe it.

This goes for conversation too! My neighbour recently told me about a mutual neighbour who walks 200 miles per day working on his farm. When I explained that this is impossible he said "I'll have to disagree with you there"

Re: Sora is here

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...which they shouldn't have been able to get? I had thought that it was against the YouTube ToS? (my personal understanding, unrelated to my employer)

AI companies don’t give a shit about ToS. Hell most of the big players actively ignored copyright entirely in bulk. See thousand upon thousands of pirated books in the pile dataset. And right after that news broke they “fixed” the problem by stopping to disclose training data sources. Thats why early models had papers eg Llama 1 listed this and now nobody does. It’s just an unspoken yet open secret now.

How did they get access to pirated books?

Re: Sora is here

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post #297

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Most people have terrible eyes for distinguishing content. I’ve worked in CG for many years and despite the online nerd fests that decry CG imagery in films, 99% of those people can’t tell what’s CG or not unless it’s incredibly obvious. It’s the same for GenAI, though I think there are more tells. Still, most people cannot tell reality from fiction. If you just tell them it’s real, they’ll most likely believe it.

> Still, most people cannot tell reality from fiction. If you just tell them it’s real, they’ll most likely believe it. This goes for conversation too! My neighbour recently told me about a mutual neighbour who walks 200 miles per day working on his farm. When I explained that this is impossible he said "I'll have to disagree with you there"

Maybe not strictly impossible, just slightly better than an ultramarathon world record pace?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultramarathon/comments/xhbs4d/sorok...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Sorokin

So, not very convenient for a non-world-champion runner to do (let alone while doing farm work) (let alone on more than one occasion).

Re: Sora is here

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So is yours! Mine isn't, however. I am a hard-nosed real boy now.

Write something that an LLM could never write. (This is my latest favorite prompt and interview/conversation question)

3e4a3ad9f05fdfb609dda6e5f512e52506f4c1053962e21bfd93f1ed81582d16ca0fef9574fb07ab62f8f5b1373b4ddd541804c0d176f4a557d900b05047e853

(This is the hash of a string randomly popped in my mind. An LLM will write this with almost 0 probability --- until this is crawled into the training sets)

Re: Sora is here

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post #124

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It just plain isn't possible if you mean a prompt the size of what most people have been using lately, in the couple hundred character range. By sheer information theory, the number of possible interpretations of "a zoom in on a happy dog catching a frisbee" means that you can not match a particular clip out of the set with just that much text. You will need vastly more content; information about the breed, informati…

For those not in this space, Sora is essentially dead on arrival. Sora performs worse than closed source Kling and Hailuo, but more importantly, it's already trumped by open source too. Tencent is releasing a fully open source Hunyuan model [1] that is better than all of the SOTA closed source models. Lightricks has their open source LTX model and Genmo is pushing Mochi as open source. Black Forest Labs is working on…

Their online version is all in Chinese (or at least some Chinese-looking script I don't understand) ... and they recommend an 80GB GPU to run the thing, which costs ~€15-18k. Yikes, guess I won't be doing this at home anytime soon

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I saw my first AI video that completely fooled commenters: https://imgur.com/a/cbjVKMU This was not marked as AI-generated and commenters were in awe at this fuzzy train, missing the "AIGC" signs. I'm quite nervous for the future.

I know there are people acting like this is obvious that this is AI, but I get why people wouldn't catch it, even if they know that AI is capable of creating a video like this. A) Most of the give aways are pretty subtle and not what viewers are focused on. Sure, if you look closely the fur blends in with the pavement in some places, but I'm not going to spend 5 minutes investigating every video I see for hints of AI…

Honestly, stuff like that could also be because of compression. We're all used to see low quality videos online.
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