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UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by genewitch »

eterm wrote: post #168
jamesu wrote: post #158

One thing I noticed is during UK Daytime TV is there are a comical amount of funeral and life insurance ads, it's incredibly depressing.

That's the demographics of who watches daytime TV. Also note that advertising of prescription pharmaceuticals is already banned, which would likely be another large advertiser were that not the case.

in the US the marketing of pharma isn't targeting the average consumer, it's targeting doctors. or so i've heard. It does boggle, though, because that's a lot (a lot) of money in any given market to reach less than 0.1% of the market, assuming they're even watching the channel at that time.

In the same vein, and as further evidence, whenever i'm in a car that isn't mine and an ad plays, especially on siriusXM, there's a good chance it's for ziprecruiter or linkedin job listings or something. How many hiring managers (or small business owners?) are listening to that ad? 25? 100? 1?

Most of my online ads are for $100,000+ network gear and the like because i'm adjacent to that industry. I just loaded edge and went to youtube to see what's up and i got an ad for an electric car (i won't own one manufactured in this century), an ad for an adblocker (pie), and i guess google caught on because i can't get any other ads to show up (i clicked a couple dozen other videos and couldn't get another pre-roll to show up).

advertising has never been relevant to me, i've only ever gotten out a credit card because of one online ad, ever, and i ended up never receiving what i paid for, so there you go, lesson learned. I haven't owned a TV since 2003, no subscription services (including CATV or Sat, netflix, etc). So when i see ads or hear them, they stand out, pretty strong.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by littlecranky67 »

crowcroft wrote: post #316
dghlsakjg wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have the power to stop this: disable the app if you believe the ads are harming your child, or opt to pay for YT or another kids video service that doesn't serve ads. One issue is that YT is possibly violating the law. A separate issue is that parents are allowing children to continue consuming harmful ad content on an app.

Not sure if YT for kids falls in this category exactly but the social nature of a lot of these products means that cutting your kid off also has negative effects in their social circle when all their friends are on the networks. That’s why collective action is needed, not just the action of individual parents.

I always hear this argument - is there any actual evidence that this is true though?

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by randomcarbloke »

akira2501 wrote: post #103
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #13

I could see supporting with this, but it does seem like an abuse of the 'for the children' argument for this. Children pretty much have to eat what you give them until they get a job. Also some chicken nuggets are bad, but some average a gram of protein per 10 calories, which is a pretty good ratio, and especially for frozen food. Can't help but think this is too broad.

> Children pretty much have to eat what you give them until they get a job. So.. then.. why are we advertising to them _at all_?

this is perverse, you understand they make a point about how easy it would be to not buy the cereal and they're right, a child does just HAVE to eat what you give them.

That children are a part of the decision making process is the failure.

The advertising works on the child, and ultimately the child (and the advert...directly to some extent but largely through the child) induces the parent to obtain the product.

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Post by randomcarbloke »

dijksterhuis wrote: post #282
phyzix5761 wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because someone doesn't live in a particular region doesn't mean they can't have opinions on broader implications of these reforms.

sure, except there are no broader implications for you right now. worry about that when it comes around pal. you’re just wasting energy right now spreading FUD. what im basically saying here is, yes, you’re entitled to have an opinion. but i’m also entitled to have an opinion that your opinion is meaningless and irrelevant to the subject at hand. which is what i am expressing.

It's my government doing it and I can confirm they're right it is overreach.

I'm allowed to say that right, you won't attack me for having an opinion?

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Post by veunes »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #13

I could see supporting with this, but it does seem like an abuse of the 'for the children' argument for this. Children pretty much have to eat what you give them until they get a job. Also some chicken nuggets are bad, but some average a gram of protein per 10 calories, which is a pretty good ratio, and especially for frozen food. Can't help but think this is too broad.

So targeting ads as the primary villain seems a bit like shifting responsibility away

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by type0 »

Fnoord wrote: post #327
dghlsakjg wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have the power to stop this: disable the app if you believe the ads are harming your child, or opt to pay for YT or another kids video service that doesn't serve ads. One issue is that YT is possibly violating the law. A separate issue is that parents are allowing children to continue consuming harmful ad content on an app.

I have a pretty staunch policy for my kids. I don't mind paying for something if price us reasonable. Malware, nagware, adware however? No. However there's two parents. So I draw a firm line at malware but allow adware. Especially also since grandma is OK with playing a F2P game with them helping them get past the ads. On the bright side: they certainly do learn to hate advertising. And dark patterns. Their little fi…

You could use https://github.com/tubearchivist/tubearchivist

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by throwaway2037 »

Nullabillity wrote: post #198
throwaway2037 wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this reasoning, isn't buying equities also gambling? Hint: It is not.

Why not?

What is about HN where numerous posters do not believe that investing in the US or EU stock markets is better than completely random outcome, like roulette red/black? Man, this place is weird sometimes. What the fuck are you investing in for retirement if not stocks? Sea shells!!?? I hereby quote Brandolini's law:

    > The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by pyuser583 »

crowcroft wrote: post #316
dghlsakjg wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have the power to stop this: disable the app if you believe the ads are harming your child, or opt to pay for YT or another kids video service that doesn't serve ads. One issue is that YT is possibly violating the law. A separate issue is that parents are allowing children to continue consuming harmful ad content on an app.

Not sure if YT for kids falls in this category exactly but the social nature of a lot of these products means that cutting your kid off also has negative effects in their social circle when all their friends are on the networks. That’s why collective action is needed, not just the action of individual parents.

This is one of the worst parts. Social participation requires access to screens.

If you think having screens hurts kids mental health, wait until you take them away!

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