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Re: Sora is here

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Post by magicalhippo »

starshadowx2 wrote: post #309
lelandfe wrote: post #285

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I saw my first AI video that completely fooled commenters: https://imgur.com/a/cbjVKMU This was not marked as AI-generated and commenters were in awe at this fuzzy train, missing the "AIGC" signs. I'm quite nervous for the future.

The face of the girl on the left at the start in the first second should have been a giveaway.

Just like all the obvious signs[1] the moon landings were faked.

[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20120829004513/http://stuffucanu...

Re: Sora is here

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Post by TrackerFF »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #505

Who is the audience for this product? A lot of people like video because it's a way of experience something they currently cannot for one reason or another. People don't want to see arbitrary fake worlds or places on earth that aren't real. Unless it's video game or something. But I see this product being used primarily to trick Facebook users I guess the CGI industry implications are interesting, but look at the wav…

I know a bunch of marketing people that have fully incorporated these tools into their workflow. So that's one group.

Also seen GenAI replace more and more stock media in many facets of business/professional services.

Re: Sora is here

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Post by robotresearcher »

troupo wrote: post #405
robotresearcher wrote: post #215

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> Long term, you'll never have a coherent movie produced by stringing together a series of textual snippets because, again, that's just impossible. Why snippets? Submit a whole script the way a writer delivers a movie to a director. The (automated) director/DP/editor could maintain internal visual coherence, while the script drives the story coherence.

You should watch how movies are made sometime. How a script is developed. How changes to it are made. How storyboards are created. How actors are screened for roles. How locations are scouted, booked, and changed. How the gazillion of different departments end up affecting how a movie looks, is produced, made, and in which direction it goes (the wardrobe alone, and its availability and deadlines will have a huge impa…

Of course normally other people contribute to a movie after the writer. My comment mentioned three of the important roles. This whole thread is about tech that automates away those roles. That's the whole point.

Re: Sora is here

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Post by HeavyStorm »

observationist wrote: post #461
miohtama wrote: post #437

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Users, not tools, should be judged. It is unlikely anyone is going to perform act of terrorism with this, or any kind of deep fakes that buy Easter European elections. The worst outcome is likely teens having a laugh.

Funny how all the negative uses to which something like this might be put are regulated or criminalized already - if you try to scam someone, commit libel or defamation, attempt widespread fraud, or any of a million nefarious uses, you'll get fined, sued, or go to jail. Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching i…

Censorship of tools...

Then let's parents choose when teenagers can start driving.

Also let's legalize ALL drugs.

Weapons should all be available to public.

Etc. Etc.

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It's very naive to think that we shouldn't regulate "tools"; or that we shouldn't regulate software.

I do agree that on many cases the bad actors who misuse tools should be the ones punished, but we should always check the risk of putting something out there that can be used for evil.

Re: Sora is here

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Post by beeskneecaps »

matco11 wrote: post #521

Forget video. Imagine what this going to do for video-gaming

I actually can't imagine what it will do for video gaming. Maybe enhancing cut-scenes, but then why can't they just do the performance and rendering using the gaming engine in realtime?

Re: Sora is here

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Post by robotresearcher »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #424
robotresearcher wrote: post #215

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> Long term, you'll never have a coherent movie produced by stringing together a series of textual snippets because, again, that's just impossible. Why snippets? Submit a whole script the way a writer delivers a movie to a director. The (automated) director/DP/editor could maintain internal visual coherence, while the script drives the story coherence.

This almost certainly won’t work. Feel free to feed any of the hundreds of existing film scripts and test how coherent the models can be. My guess is not at all

The clips on the Sora site today would have been utterly astonishing ten years ago. Long term progress can be surprising.

Re: Sora is here

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Post by beeskneecaps »

SillyUsername wrote: post #465

No integration with ChatGPT is a lost opportunity and illustrates no joined up thinking in all senses of that phrase. Demonstrations, helping people with learning difficulties visualise things, education purposes, story telling...

ChatGPT isn't even aware of Sora when I asked it to generate a video. Like why not combine the interface for prompting? Sounds like their having issues scaling a common interface so each team is making their own.

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Post by tetris11 »

echelon wrote: post #576
tetris11 wrote: post #274

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0 stars, and no comments the last time this was posted. Maybe too good to be true?

That's not the upstream source. You're looking for this: https://github.com/Tencent/HunyuanVideo/ This isn't "too good to be true" - this is the holy grail. Hunyuan is set to become the Flux/Stable Diffusion of AI video. I don't see how Hunyuan doesn't completely kill off Sora. It's 100% open source, is rapidly being developed for consumer PCs, can be fine tuned, works with ComfyUI/other tools, and it has control net…

there it is, thanks

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Post by sensanaty »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #505

Who is the audience for this product? A lot of people like video because it's a way of experience something they currently cannot for one reason or another. People don't want to see arbitrary fake worlds or places on earth that aren't real. Unless it's video game or something. But I see this product being used primarily to trick Facebook users I guess the CGI industry implications are interesting, but look at the wav…

Anyone who wants to waste your time/attention/money(!!) for cheap. Think all the bullshit useless jobs aka marketers, scammers, identity thieves.

Other than that, it's also so people can spam every single website with millions of hours of AI generated spam and earn 7 cents off of the 5000 people the algorithm randomly decides to show it to.

Legitimate uses outside of that kinda shit? I fail to see one.

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