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What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by gamblor956 »

gowld wrote: post #50
gamblor956 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a common tactic to try and get a suspect to turn themselves in. Sometimes it works. (Most suspects turn themselves in for crimes they've committed. It's actually the exception when police need to go out to arrest a criminal suspect.)

That's when the suspect's identity is known, and the suspect would rather face a bail hearing then try to keep hiding.

Sure, for nonviolent criminal offenses. It helps that accepting responsibility for one's actions (as demonstrated by turning oneself in) generally results in significantly reduced sentencing.

For violent offenses, and especially for high-profile murder cases, they don't give the suspect the option of turning themselves in.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by d0mine »

gowld wrote: post #46
tacticalturtle wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was specifically Eric Adams who sort of implied that - but it was a bit of a cagey response, and NYPD later stated that day they had no ID: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5028239-mayor-adams-sa... Given Adam’s past year, there was never a reason to take what he says at face value.

I don't think that's a fair characterization. > When asked by a reporter if police had the suspect’s name, Adams said, “We don’t want to release that now. If you do, you’re basically giving a tip to the person we are fine with seeking, and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all. Let him continue to believe he can hide behind a mask.” Grammatical flub aside ("the person we are fine with seeking"), he is just…

"Let him continue to believe he can hide behind a mask" implies that he can't hide and they know his name. A lie in other words.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

hilux wrote: post #11

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Alternatively:

  [...]
  You may look like we do, talk like we do
  But you know how it is

  [Chorus]
  You're not one of us, not one of us
  No, you're not one of us
  Not one of us, not one of us
  No, you're not one of us
"Not one of us" by Peter Gabriel

https://genius.com/Peter-gabriel-not-one-of-us-lyrics

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by Joeboy »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #63
hilux wrote: post #11

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Alternatively: [...] You may look like we do, talk like we do But you know how it is [Chorus] You're not one of us, not one of us No, you're not one of us Not one of us, not one of us No, you're not one of us "Not one of us" by Peter Gabriel https://genius.com/Peter-gabriel-not-one-of-us-lyrics

    You were, I felt, robbing me of my rightful chances
    My picture clear, everything seemed so easy

    And so I dealt you the blow, one of us had to go
    Now it's different, I want you to know
"One of Us" by Abba

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by Bjorkbat »

I'm weirdly not too surprised due to this belief I have that software developers would make effective criminals. A lot of this boils down to a belief I have that not getting caught in the first place is easy. Murders have something like a 50% solve rate and you can decrease your chances of getting caught with a little knowledge on how to evade common forensic techniques along with some planning. Those who get caught doing one crime or another either were dumb to begin or eventually got lazy and made a dumb mistake in hindsight.

Besides that though, the ethos that we have lends itself well to acquiring advanced knowledge in more-or-less all domains, crime and forensics included.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by [deleted] »

gowld wrote: post #46
tacticalturtle wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was specifically Eric Adams who sort of implied that - but it was a bit of a cagey response, and NYPD later stated that day they had no ID: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5028239-mayor-adams-sa... Given Adam’s past year, there was never a reason to take what he says at face value.

I don't think that's a fair characterization. > When asked by a reporter if police had the suspect’s name, Adams said, “We don’t want to release that now. If you do, you’re basically giving a tip to the person we are fine with seeking, and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all. Let him continue to believe he can hide behind a mask.” Grammatical flub aside ("the person we are fine with seeking"), he is just…

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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by qzw »

breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

Exactly my thoughts as well. Every piece of evidence law enforcement has was basically intentionally provided by him. If he just stuffed his trash in one of his 7 pockets, or wore a pair of sunglasses, or didn't actually stare straight at the camera in the taxi like he was getting his school picture taken? I mean pretty much the only thing he failed to do was leave his business card at the crime scene.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by avalys »

potsandpans wrote: post #42
avalys wrote: post #15

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What level of cognitive dissonance is required to refer to patients denied critical care as "unhappy customers"? To argue in good faith, I have to assume that you believe what you've written. How should one interpret it? Be explicit.

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