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Re: Sora is here

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Post by mdp2021 »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #115
do_not_redeem wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd take that bet at 10:1 odds.

I'd be careful. OpenAI could be a big enough bubble in less than 5 years to buy the Oscar winner, even if the film is terrible. Also, OP only said "an Oscar". The Oscar committee could easily get themselves hyped enough on the AI bubble, to create an AI Oscar Film award. No one said anything about making a "good" movie.

> OP only said "an Oscar"

...For soundtrack. (Sorry.)

But seriously: like the democratization which made music production cheap brought some interesting or commercially successful endavours, the increased effort from people who could not bring their dreams to reality because of the basic constraint of budget will probably bring some very good results, even anthology worth - and lots of trash.

Re: Sora is here

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Post by byteknight »

a_wild_dandan wrote: post #317
byteknight wrote: post #284

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Feels like you're looking for a strawman argument, and may have found one. I would retort that animation and real-life-looking video do different things to our psyche. As an uneducated wanna-be intellectual, I would lean toward thinking real-looking objects more directly influence our perception of life than animations.

Animation can look real though, e.g sci-fi vfx. But maybe you’re concerned about how prolific it may be? I could see that. Personally I think it’ll be fine. It’s just that disruptive tools create uncertainty. Or maybe I’m overcompensating to avoid being the “old man yelling at cloud” dude.

Now you're intentionally mixing VFX and animation. Animation, at least in my meaning, was more cartoon.

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Post by pyrale »

jedberg wrote: post #414

> We’re introducing our video generation technology now to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards that ensure it’s used responsibly as the field advances. That's an interesting way of saying "we're probably gonna miss some stuff in our safety tools, so hopefully society picks up the slack for us". :)

"We're releasing this like rats on a remote island, in hopes of seeing how the ecosystem is going to respond".

Re: Sora is here

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Post by usrnm »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #428
jedberg wrote: post #414

> We’re introducing our video generation technology now to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards that ensure it’s used responsibly as the field advances. That's an interesting way of saying "we're probably gonna miss some stuff in our safety tools, so hopefully society picks up the slack for us". :)

"to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards" Or, "this safety stuff is harder than we thought, we're just going to call 'tag you're it' on society" Or, -Oppenheimer : speaking "man, this nuclear safety stuff is hard, I'm just going to put it all out there and let society explore developing norms and safeguards". -Society : Bombs Japan -Oppenheimer : "No, not like that, oops"…

Oppenheimer was making a bomb from day 1, he knew exactly what he was doing and how it would be used. There aren't so many different use cases for a bomb, after all. It was a nice movie, but it does not absolve him

Re: Sora is here

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Post by xvector »

nlehuen wrote: post #484
observationist wrote: post #461

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Funny how all the negative uses to which something like this might be put are regulated or criminalized already - if you try to scam someone, commit libel or defamation, attempt widespread fraud, or any of a million nefarious uses, you'll get fined, sued, or go to jail. Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching i…

You are posting this under a pseudonym. If you did publish something horrific or illegal, it would have been the responsibility of this web site to either censor your content, and/or identify you when asked by authorities. Which do you prefer?

This website is not a tool - not really.

Your keyboard is.

Censoring AI generation itself is very much like censoring your keyboard or text editor or IDE.

Edit: Of course, "literally everything is a tool", yada yada. You get what I mean. There is a meaningful difference between that translate our thoughts to a digital medium (keyboards) and tools that share those thoughts that others.

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Post by 8note »

lacoolj wrote: post #235

A little worried how young children watching these videos may develop inaccurate impressions of physics in nature. For instance, that ladybug looks pretty natural, but there's a little glitch in there that an unwitting observer, who's never seen a ladybug move before, may mistake as being normal. And maybe it is! And maybe it isn't? The sailing ship - are those water movements correct? The sinking of the elephant int…

i wouldnt expect young children to learn how to walk by watching people walk on a screen, regardless of if its a real person walking, or an ai animation.

the real world gives way more stimulus

watching the animations might help them play video games, but i again imagine that the feedback is what will do the real job.

even for the real ladybug video, who says the behaviour on screen is similar to what a typical ladybug does? if its on video, the ladybug was probably doing something weird amd unexpected

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Post by xvector »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #428
jedberg wrote: post #414

> We’re introducing our video generation technology now to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards that ensure it’s used responsibly as the field advances. That's an interesting way of saying "we're probably gonna miss some stuff in our safety tools, so hopefully society picks up the slack for us". :)

"to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards" Or, "this safety stuff is harder than we thought, we're just going to call 'tag you're it' on society" Or, -Oppenheimer : speaking "man, this nuclear safety stuff is hard, I'm just going to put it all out there and let society explore developing norms and safeguards". -Society : Bombs Japan -Oppenheimer : "No, not like that, oops"…

Eh, society did a pretty good job overall.

The bomb was the end of conventional warfare between nuclear nations. MAD has created an era of peace unlike anything our species has ever seen before.

Re: Sora is here

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Post by kylehotchkiss »

pen2l wrote: post #80

Every day that passes I grow fonder of Google's decision to delay or otherwise keep a lot of this under the wraps. The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw someth…

> the image of those people on slot machines, mechanically and soullessly pulling levers because they are addicted. It's just so strange.

Worse, the audience is our parents and grandparents. They have little context to be able to sort out reality from this stuff

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Post by mkaic »

A friendly reminder: if you have tech-illiterate people in your life (parents, grandparents, friends, etc), please reach out to them and inform them about advances in AI text, image, audio, and (as of very recently) video generation. Many folks are not aware of what modern algorithms are capable of, and this puts them at risk. GenAI makes it easier and cheaper than ever for bad actors to create targeted, believable scams. Let your loved ones know that it is possible to create believable images, audio, and videos which may depict anything from “Politician Says OUTRAGEOUS Thing!” to “a member of your own family is begging you for money.” The best defense you can give them is to make them aware of what they’re up against. These tools are currently the worst they will ever be, and their capabilities will only grow in the coming months and years. They are already widely used by scammers.

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Post by kylehotchkiss »

kranke155 wrote: post #69
awongh wrote: post #52

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Interesting to see how bad the physics/object permanence is. I wonder if combining this with a Genie 2 type model (Google's new "world model") would be the next step in refining it's capabilities.

Until these models can figure out physics, it seems to me they will be an interesting toy

But they don't, they just understand pixel relationships (right?)
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