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What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by tacticalturtle »

lawlessone wrote: post #12

>Police revealed that finding the 26-year-old was a complete surprise, and that they did not have his name on a list of suspects prior to today So when they said they knew who he was yesterday it was a lie.

It was specifically Eric Adams who sort of implied that - but it was a bit of a cagey response, and NYPD later stated that day they had no ID:

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5028239-mayor-adams-sa...

Given Adam’s past year, there was never a reason to take what he says at face value.

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Post by llamaimperative »

avalys wrote: post #15

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I’m not cheering this guy on but you’re not paying attention if you think people’s complaints about health insurance in general and UHG in particular amount to “unhappy customers.”

The entire system is an ineffective accountability sink that is highly vulnerable to vertical mergers that capture incredible amounts of money from our society while providing empirically subpar results — results on a dimension that matter quite a lot to people (the health and wellbeing of their loved ones)

Go do some Googling on the antitrust suits against the different combinations of UnitedHealthcare, Optum, and OptumRx.

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Post by asdefghyk »

avalys wrote: post #15

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RE ... that some of those customers are unhappy....

Articales show they had lots of unhappy customers.... Also when employes get income of several million a year seems excessive. The CEOS income was around $50,000 a business DAY , probably more that lots people earn in a year. Its reported these customers died/ went bankrupt as a result of insurance company refusals . ( Ive always thought needs to be much stronger government laws around documentation so people aware of what is covered and what is not, could have reduced the number of unhappy customers )

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Post by gamblor956 »

lawlessone wrote: post #12

>Police revealed that finding the 26-year-old was a complete surprise, and that they did not have his name on a list of suspects prior to today So when they said they knew who he was yesterday it was a lie.

That's a common tactic to try and get a suspect to turn themselves in.

Sometimes it works. (Most suspects turn themselves in for crimes they've committed. It's actually the exception when police need to go out to arrest a criminal suspect.)

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Post by viccis »

avalys wrote: post #15

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>How would you feel if one of those unhappy customers showed up at your home and shot you dead?

If I were the face of a company using junk AI and other obstruction methods to achieve industry leading denial rates to potentially life saving healthcare, all to build up my company's coffers, I would feel pretty unsurprised.

Maybe he was surprised though. In a possibly apocryphal story, Alfred Nobel was so shocked on reading the way he was described in his (mistaken) obituary that he felt compelled to turn around his legacy.

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Post by BadHumans »

The funniest thing about the whole thing to me is that we have had privacy taken away or even voluntarily given it up to the police state in the name of security and then this guy randomly walks up and offs a member of the 1% and the only reason he got caught was because the feds got lucky.

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Post by avalys »

llamaimperative wrote: post #22
avalys wrote: post #15

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I’m not cheering this guy on but you’re not paying attention if you think people’s complaints about health insurance in general and UHG in particular amount to “unhappy customers.” The entire system is an ineffective accountability sink that is highly vulnerable to vertical mergers that capture incredible amounts of money from our society while providing empirically subpar results — results on a dimension that matter…

The people that should be blamed are the politicians that created this mess in the first place, not the people administering the broken system that they can’t change unilaterally.
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