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Post by Arnt »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #428
jedberg wrote: post #414

> We’re introducing our video generation technology now to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards that ensure it’s used responsibly as the field advances. That's an interesting way of saying "we're probably gonna miss some stuff in our safety tools, so hopefully society picks up the slack for us". :)

"to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards" Or, "this safety stuff is harder than we thought, we're just going to call 'tag you're it' on society" Or, -Oppenheimer : speaking "man, this nuclear safety stuff is hard, I'm just going to put it all out there and let society explore developing norms and safeguards". -Society : Bombs Japan -Oppenheimer : "No, not like that, oops"…

Aren't you kind of saying that you don't have any answers so therefore OpenAI should have provided the answers?

Re: Sora is here

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Post by int_19h »

alpha_squared wrote: post #433
amelius wrote: post #410

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Can't you just give it a photo of a dog, and then say "use this dog in this or that scene"?

How would that even work? A dog has physical features (legs, nose, eyes, ears, etc.) that they use to interact with the world around them (ground, tree, grass, sounds, etc.). And each one of those things has physical structures that compose senses (nervous system, optic nerves, etc.). There are layers upon layers of intricate complexity that took eons to develop and a single photo cannot encapsulate that level of com…

A single photo doesn't have to capture all that complexity. It's carried by all those countless dog photos and videos in the training set of the model.

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Post by dcchambers »

Meh. It's a cool POC and immediately useful for abstract imagery, but not for anything realistic.

Looking forward to the onslaught of AI-generated slop filling every video feed on the Internet. Maybe it's finally what's going to kill things like TikTok, YT Shorts, Reels, etc. One can hope...anyway.

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Post by famouswaffles »

dartos wrote: post #147
TeMPOraL wrote: post #127

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> Now expand that to movies and games and you can get why this whole generative-AI bubble is going to pop. What will save it is that, no matter how picky you are as a creator, your audience will never know what exactly was that you dreamed up, so any half-decent approximation will work. In other words, a corollary to your corollary is, "Fortunately, you don't need them to be, because no one cares about low-order bits…

Your eye sees just about every frame of a film… People may not think they care, but obviously they do. That’s why marvel movies do better than DC ones. People absolutely care about details in their media.

The visuals are the absolute bottom of why DC movies have performed worse over the years.

The movies have just had much worse audience and critical reception.

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Post by ghita_ »

pearjuice wrote: post #14

Though I like the novelty of AI generated content, it kind of sucks dead internet theory is becoming more and more prevalent. YouTube (and all of the web) is already being spammed with AI generated slop and "better" video/text/audio models only make this worse. At some point we will cross the threshold of "real" and "generated" content being posted on the web and there's no stopping that.

yeah i already have so many AI-generated videos in my feed on all social media it's insane. i spot them from far for now but at some point i'll just be consuming content that took seconds to generate just to get money

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Post by 8note »

observationist wrote: post #461
miohtama wrote: post #437

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Users, not tools, should be judged. It is unlikely anyone is going to perform act of terrorism with this, or any kind of deep fakes that buy Easter European elections. The worst outcome is likely teens having a laugh.

Funny how all the negative uses to which something like this might be put are regulated or criminalized already - if you try to scam someone, commit libel or defamation, attempt widespread fraud, or any of a million nefarious uses, you'll get fined, sued, or go to jail. Would you want Microsoft to claim they're responsible for the "safety" of what you write with Word? For the legality of the numbers you're punching i…

that works for locally hosted models, but if its as a service, openai is publishing those verboten works to you, the person who requested it.

even if it is a local model, if you trained a model to spew nazi propaganda, youre still publishing nazi propaganda to the people who then go use it to make propaganda. its just very summarized propaganda

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Post by sarchertech »

cornel_io wrote: post #305
spuz wrote: post #186

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Yes and the thing is, even for those tasks, it's incredibly difficult to achieve even the low bar that a typical advertising manager expects. Try it yourself for any real world task and you will see.

Counterpoint: our CEO spent 25 minutes shitting out a bunch of AI ads because he was frustrated with the pace of our advertising creative team. They hated the ads that he created, for the reasons you mention, but we tested them anyways and the best performing ones beat all of our "expert" team's best ads by a healthy margin (on all the metrics we care about, from CTR to IPM and downstream stuff like retention and RoA…

> Maybe we're in a honeymoon period where your average user hasn't gotten annoyed by all the slop out there and they will soon

It’s this. A video ad with a person morphing into a bird that takes off like a rocket with fire coming out of its ass, sure it might perform well because we aren’t saturated with that yet.

You’d probably get a similar result by giving a camera to a 5 year old.

But you also have to ask what that’s doing long term to your brand.

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Post by 123yawaworht456 »

jedberg wrote: post #414

> We’re introducing our video generation technology now to give society time to explore its possibilities and co-develop norms and safeguards that ensure it’s used responsibly as the field advances. That's an interesting way of saying "we're probably gonna miss some stuff in our safety tools, so hopefully society picks up the slack for us". :)

text, image, video, and audio editing tools have no 'safety' and 'alignment' whatsoever, and skilled humans are far more capable of creating 'unsafe' and 'unethical' media than generative AI will ever be.

somehow, the society had survived just fine.

the notion that generative AI tools should be 'safe' and 'aligned' is as absurd as the notion that tools like Notepad, Photoshop, Premiere and Audacity should exist only in the cloud, monitored by kommissars to ensure that proles aren't doing something 'unsafe' with them.

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