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Post by AyyEye »

sdf4j wrote: post #254
lacoolj wrote: post #235

A little worried how young children watching these videos may develop inaccurate impressions of physics in nature. For instance, that ladybug looks pretty natural, but there's a little glitch in there that an unwitting observer, who's never seen a ladybug move before, may mistake as being normal. And maybe it is! And maybe it isn't? The sailing ship - are those water movements correct? The sinking of the elephant int…

I grew up watching Looney Tunes interpretation of physics and turned out just fine.

There's big difference between cartoonishly incorrect and uncanny valley plausibly correct.

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Post by b112 »

icepat wrote: post #243
lacoolj wrote: post #235

A little worried how young children watching these videos may develop inaccurate impressions of physics in nature. For instance, that ladybug looks pretty natural, but there's a little glitch in there that an unwitting observer, who's never seen a ladybug move before, may mistake as being normal. And maybe it is! And maybe it isn't? The sailing ship - are those water movements correct? The sinking of the elephant int…

> The sinking of the elephant into snow - how deep is too deep? Should there be snow on the elephant or would it have melted from body heat? Should some of the snow fall off during movement or is it maybe packed down too tightly already? Should there be an elephant in the snow? The layers of possible confusion, and subtle incorrect understandings go much deeper.

Yes, they were used to traverse mountains paths.

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Post by LASR »

jerf wrote: post #124
yeknoda wrote: post #9

I've found using these and similar tools that the amount of prompts and iteration required to create my vision (image or video in my mind) is very large and often is not able to create what I had originally wanted. A way to test this is to take a piece of footage or an image which is the ground truth, and test how much prompting and editing it takes to get the same or similar ground truth starting from scratch. It is…

It just plain isn't possible if you mean a prompt the size of what most people have been using lately, in the couple hundred character range. By sheer information theory, the number of possible interpretations of "a zoom in on a happy dog catching a frisbee" means that you can not match a particular clip out of the set with just that much text. You will need vastly more content; information about the breed, informati…

What you are saying is totally correct.

And this applies to language / code outputs as well.

The number of times I’ve had engineers at my company type out 5 sentences and then expect a complete react webapp.

But what I’ve found in practice is using LLMs to generate the prompt with low-effort human input (eg: thumbs up/down, multiple-choice etc) is quite useful. It generates walls of text, but with metaprompting, that’s kind of the point. With this, I’ve definitely been able to get high ROI out of LLMs. I suspect the same would work for vision output.

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Post by bparsons »

lacoolj wrote: post #235

A little worried how young children watching these videos may develop inaccurate impressions of physics in nature. For instance, that ladybug looks pretty natural, but there's a little glitch in there that an unwitting observer, who's never seen a ladybug move before, may mistake as being normal. And maybe it is! And maybe it isn't? The sailing ship - are those water movements correct? The sinking of the elephant int…

I dont think you are overthinking it.

Facebook seems full of older people interacting with AI generated visual content who don't seem to understand that it is fake.

Our society already had a problem with people (not) participating in consensus reality. This is going to pour gasoline on the fire.

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Post by sccomps »

icepat wrote: post #243
lacoolj wrote: post #235

A little worried how young children watching these videos may develop inaccurate impressions of physics in nature. For instance, that ladybug looks pretty natural, but there's a little glitch in there that an unwitting observer, who's never seen a ladybug move before, may mistake as being normal. And maybe it is! And maybe it isn't? The sailing ship - are those water movements correct? The sinking of the elephant int…

> The sinking of the elephant into snow - how deep is too deep? Should there be snow on the elephant or would it have melted from body heat? Should some of the snow fall off during movement or is it maybe packed down too tightly already? Should there be an elephant in the snow? The layers of possible confusion, and subtle incorrect understandings go much deeper.

With the same reasoning, do reindeer actually fly and pull a sleigh carrying a 200-pound man along with tons of gifts? I believe you're underestimating human intelligence and our ability to apply logic and reasoning.

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Post by manquer »

abenga wrote: post #257
rtsil wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's just the typical HN cynicism.

I don't think you can reduce it to this. Even on the showcase videos on the home page I can see weird artifacts, like the red car in the video of the guy walking through a market. The car is driving on a pedestrian walkway (through pedestrians), and just suddenly disappears from one frame to another.

Also the tennis player walking through the net

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Post by goykasi »

A bit off-topic, but how much does a 4-letter (or less) .com go for these days? I wonder if they bought this via an intermediary so that the seller wouldnt see "OpenAI" and tack on a few zeros.

edit: previously, this thread pointed to sora.com

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