Wish they’d followed their previous MO of releasing stuff with no warning or buildup. Results won’t match the hype.
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#262A little worried how young children watching these videos may develop inaccurate impressions of physics in nature. For instance, that ladybug looks pretty natural, but there's a little glitch in there that an unwitting observer, who's never seen a ladybug move before, may mistake as being normal. And maybe it is! And maybe it isn't? The sailing ship - are those water movements correct? The sinking of the elephant int…
Pretty sure cartoons and actions movies do that already, until youtube videos of attempted stunts show what reality looks like.
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The adage "a picture is worth a thousand words" has the nice corollary "A thousand words isn't enough to be precise about an image". Now expand that to movies and games and you can get why this whole generative-AI bubble is going to pop.
> Now expand that to movies and games and you can get why this whole generative-AI bubble is going to pop. What will save it is that, no matter how picky you are as a creator, your audience will never know what exactly was that you dreamed up, so any half-decent approximation will work. In other words, a corollary to your corollary is, "Fortunately, you don't need them to be, because no one cares about low-order bits…
Actual long form art like a movie works because it includes many well informed choices that work together as a whole.
There seems to be a large gap between generating a few seconds of video vaguely like one's notion, and trying to create 90 minutes that are related and meaningful.
Which doesn't mean that you can't build from this starting place build more robust tools. But if you think that this is a large, hard amount of work, it certainly could call into question optisimitic projections from people who don't even seem to notice that there is work need at all.
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#264Wow this is bad. And by bad i mean worse than leading open source and existing alternatives. Is it me or does it seem like OpenAI revolutionized with both chatGPT and Sora, but they've completely hit the ceiling? Honestly a bit surprised it happened so fast!
If you're going to say something like this, you need to back it up with specific alternatives that provide a better result. Besides just citing your sources, I'm genuinely curious what the best ones are for this so I can see the competition :)
That's not the only open video model, either. Lightricks' LTX, Genmo's Mochi, and Black Forest Labs' upcoming models will all be open source video foundation models.
Sora is commoditized like Dall-E at this point.
Video will be dominated by players like Flux and Stable Diffusion.
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#265I've found using these and similar tools that the amount of prompts and iteration required to create my vision (image or video in my mind) is very large and often is not able to create what I had originally wanted. A way to test this is to take a piece of footage or an image which is the ground truth, and test how much prompting and editing it takes to get the same or similar ground truth starting from scratch. It is…
The adage "a picture is worth a thousand words" has the nice corollary "A thousand words isn't enough to be precise about an image". Now expand that to movies and games and you can get why this whole generative-AI bubble is going to pop.
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#266A little worried how young children watching these videos may develop inaccurate impressions of physics in nature. For instance, that ladybug looks pretty natural, but there's a little glitch in there that an unwitting observer, who's never seen a ladybug move before, may mistake as being normal. And maybe it is! And maybe it isn't? The sailing ship - are those water movements correct? The sinking of the elephant int…
I grew up watching Looney Tunes interpretation of physics and turned out just fine.
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#267A little worried how young children watching these videos may develop inaccurate impressions of physics in nature. For instance, that ladybug looks pretty natural, but there's a little glitch in there that an unwitting observer, who's never seen a ladybug move before, may mistake as being normal. And maybe it is! And maybe it isn't? The sailing ship - are those water movements correct? The sinking of the elephant int…
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I would guess there is more than one computer :) Pixar's stuff famously takes days per frame.
> Pixar's stuff famously takes days per frame. Do you have a citation for this? My guess would be much closer to a couple of hours per frame.