Wow this is bad. And by bad i mean worse than leading open source and existing alternatives. Is it me or does it seem like OpenAI revolutionized with both chatGPT and Sora, but they've completely hit the ceiling? Honestly a bit surprised it happened so fast!
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#73If you're looking for video for casual personal projects or fill-ins for vlog posts, or something to make your PowerPoint look neat, this seems like a rad tool. It has a looong way to go before it's taking anyone's movie VFX job.
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#74I've found using these and similar tools that the amount of prompts and iteration required to create my vision (image or video in my mind) is very large and often is not able to create what I had originally wanted. A way to test this is to take a piece of footage or an image which is the ground truth, and test how much prompting and editing it takes to get the same or similar ground truth starting from scratch. It is…
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#75Though I like the novelty of AI generated content, it kind of sucks dead internet theory is becoming more and more prevalent. YouTube (and all of the web) is already being spammed with AI generated slop and "better" video/text/audio models only make this worse. At some point we will cross the threshold of "real" and "generated" content being posted on the web and there's no stopping that.
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#76I've found using these and similar tools that the amount of prompts and iteration required to create my vision (image or video in my mind) is very large and often is not able to create what I had originally wanted. A way to test this is to take a piece of footage or an image which is the ground truth, and test how much prompting and editing it takes to get the same or similar ground truth starting from scratch. It is…
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#77I don't see sora being THAT much better than pika now that I'm trying both, except that it's included in my openai subscription, but I do think people who do discreet parts of the "modal stack" are going to be able to compete on their merits (be it pika for vid or suno for music etc)
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
My hope was that AI would make it easier for people to create new things that haven't been done before, but my fear was that it would just be an endless slop machine. We're living in the endless slop machine timeline and even genuine attempts to make something artistic end up just coming off as more slop. I love this timeline.
Even if it's made with AI, it is slop only if you don't add anything original in your prompt, and don't spend much time selecting. The real competition of any new work is the backlog of decades of content that is instantly accessible. Of course it makes all content less valuable, you can always find something else. Hence the race for attention and the slop machine. It was actually invented by the ad driven revenue mo…
Define "original". You could generate a pregnant Spongebob Squarepants and that would be original, but it would still be noise that doesn't inherently expand the creative space.
> don't spend much time selecting
That's the unexpected issue with the proliferation of generative AI now being accessible to nontechnical people. Most are lazy and go with the first generation that matches the vibe, which is the main reason why we have slop.
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#79Pricing: Plus Tier (20$/month) - Up to 50 priority videos (1,000 credits) - Up to 720p resolution and 5s duration Pro Tier (200$/month) - Up to 500 priority videos (10,000 credits) - Unlimited relaxed videos - Up to 1080p resolution, 20s duration and 5 concurrent generations - Download without watermark more info: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10245774-sora-billing-cr...
https://www.klingai.com/membership/membership-plan
Quality seems relatively similar based on the samples I've seen. With the same issues - object permanence, temporal stability, physics comprehension etc, being present in both. Kling has no qualms about copyright violation however.
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#80The other day I was scrolling down on YouTube shorts and a couple videos invoked an uncanny valley response from me (I think it was a clip of an unrealistically large snake covering some hut) which was somehow fascinating and strange and captivating, and then scrolling down a few more, again I saw something kind of "unbelievable"... I saw a comment or two saying it's fake, and upon closer inspection: yeah, there were enough AI'esque artifacts that one could confidently conclude it's fake.
We'd known about AI slop permeating Facebook -- usually a Jesus figure made out of unlikely set of things (like shrimp!) and we'd known that it grips eyeballs. And I don't even know in which box to categorize this, in my mind it conjures the image of those people on slot machines, mechanically and soullessly pulling levers because they are addicted. It's just so strange.
I can imagine now some of the conversations that might have happened at Google when they choose to keep a lot of innovations related to genAI under the wraps (I'm being charitable here of their motives), and I can't help but agree.
And I can't help but be saddened about OpenAI's decisions to unload a lot of this before recognizing the results of unleashing this to humanity, because I'm almost certain it'll be used more for bad things than good things, I'm certain its application on bad things will secure more eyeballs than on good things.