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Wow this is bad. And by bad i mean worse than leading open source and existing alternatives.

Is it me or does it seem like OpenAI revolutionized with both chatGPT and Sora, but they've completely hit the ceiling?

Honestly a bit surprised it happened so fast!

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I've found using these and similar tools that the amount of prompts and iteration required to create my vision (image or video in my mind) is very large and often is not able to create what I had originally wanted. A way to test this is to take a piece of footage or an image which is the ground truth, and test how much prompting and editing it takes to get the same or similar ground truth starting from scratch. It is…

The adage "a picture is worth a thousand words" has the nice corollary "A thousand words isn't enough to be precise about an image".

Now expand that to movies and games and you can get why this whole generative-AI bubble is going to pop.

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Though I like the novelty of AI generated content, it kind of sucks dead internet theory is becoming more and more prevalent. YouTube (and all of the web) is already being spammed with AI generated slop and "better" video/text/audio models only make this worse. At some point we will cross the threshold of "real" and "generated" content being posted on the web and there's no stopping that.

I felt this same way as image generation was rapidly improving, but I've been caught by surprise and impressed with how resilient we have been in the face of it.

Turns out it's surprisingly, at least for me, to tune out the slop. Some platforms will fall victim to it (Google image search, for one), but new platforms will spring up to take their place.

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As there was no mention of an API for either Sora or o1 Pro, I think this launch further marks OpenAI’s transition from an infrastructure company to a product company.

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Yawn, there are literally 10 different apps and wannabe startups that do video generation and AI videos have already flooded social media. This doesn't look any better than what is and has been already available to the masses. OpenAI announced this ages ago and never did give people access, now competitors have already captured the AI generated video for social media slop market. We have yet to see any kind of AI cre…

So you're saying there is literally nothing good about Sora?

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#66
Hollywood's days are numbered.

If you are a creative in this industry, start preparing to transition to another industry or adapt.

Your boss is highly likely to be toying around with this.

The first entirely AI generated film (with Sora or other AI video tools) to win an Oscar will be less than 5 years away.

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post #23

Though I like the novelty of AI generated content, it kind of sucks dead internet theory is becoming more and more prevalent. YouTube (and all of the web) is already being spammed with AI generated slop and "better" video/text/audio models only make this worse. At some point we will cross the threshold of "real" and "generated" content being posted on the web and there's no stopping that.

My hope was that AI would make it easier for people to create new things that haven't been done before, but my fear was that it would just be an endless slop machine. We're living in the endless slop machine timeline and even genuine attempts to make something artistic end up just coming off as more slop. I love this timeline.

Imagine a movie like Napoleon, but instead of needing 100 million and thousands of extras, you just need 5 actors and maybe a budget of 50k.

You could get something much more creative or historically accurate than whatever Hollywood deems marketable.

I think about AI like any other tool. For example I make music using various software.

Are drum machines cheating? Is electronic music computer sloop compared to playing each instrument.

Is using a Mac and a 1k mic over a 30k studio cheating ?

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#68

Yawn, there are literally 10 different apps and wannabe startups that do video generation and AI videos have already flooded social media. This doesn't look any better than what is and has been already available to the masses. OpenAI announced this ages ago and never did give people access, now competitors have already captured the AI generated video for social media slop market. We have yet to see any kind of AI cre…

Don't just critique - link. What other video generation tools have you used and recommend?

The subreddit /r/aivideo has tons of videos all tagged with what model was used to generate them.

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post #52

MKBHD's review of the new Sora release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY2x0TyKzIQ

Interesting to see how bad the physics/object permanence is. I wonder if combining this with a Genie 2 type model (Google's new "world model") would be the next step in refining it's capabilities.

Until these models can figure out physics, it seems to me they will be an interesting toy

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#70

From "12 Days of OpenAI: Day 3" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jKVx2vyZOY (live as of this comment)

Over now, and pretty short/light on info AFAICT. That said, knowing what we know now about Altman made me physically unable to watch while he engages in sustained eye contact with the camera, so maybe missed something while skimming! On the upside, I'm so glad we have three billionaires cultivating three different cinema-supervillain vibes (Musk, Altman, & Zuckerberg). Much more fresh than the usual "oil baron" aesthetic that we know from the gilded age
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