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Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

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It gets the Sally question correct, but it takes more than 100 lines of reasoning. >Sally has three brothers. Each brother has two sisters. How many sisters does sally have? Here is the answer: https://pastebin.com/JP2V92Kh

This line had me laughing: "But that doesn't make sense because Sally can't be her own sister." Having said this, how many 'lines' of reasoning does the average human need? It's a weird comparison perhaps but the point is does it really matter if it needs 100 or 100k 'lines', if it could hide that (just as we hide our thoughts or even can't really access the - semi-parallel - things our brain does to come to an answe…

The LLM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fC2oke5MFg&ab_channel=TraeB...

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

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no the OP but literally your comment as prompt https://chatgpt.com/share/6747c7d9-47e8-8007-a174-f977ef82f5...

huh. they've eased it up quite a bit since the last time I tried chatting it up about controversial topics.

share the chats then

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

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Just last week, they gave a megaport to Peru, the biggest in Latin America

Business interests. Don't think that it's out of the goodness of their hearts.

Right. Goodness of their hearts only comes from the US. The others just want to take advantage, careful! /s

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

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4699$US. Quickest justification I ever made not to buy something

Yeah, exactly. If you don't want a discrete GPU of your own in a desktop that you could technically access remotely, then go with cloud GPU. Why pay Apple silly money for their ram when you could take that same money, get a MB Air and build a desktop with a 4090 in it (hell, if you already have the desktop you could buy TWO 4090s for that money). Then just set up the server to use remotely.

> why

offline. anywhere.

separately, if you purchase anything from Dell to Framework, you quickly learn there's no "apple tax", there's a cost for a type of engineering to a given spec (for oranges to oranges "TCO" you should spec all the things, including screen, energy, and resale value), and it's comparable from any manufacture, with the Apple resale value dropping their TCO lower than the others.

Re: QwQ: Alibaba's O1-like reasoning LLM

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Yeah, exactly. If you don't want a discrete GPU of your own in a desktop that you could technically access remotely, then go with cloud GPU. Why pay Apple silly money for their ram when you could take that same money, get a MB Air and build a desktop with a 4090 in it (hell, if you already have the desktop you could buy TWO 4090s for that money). Then just set up the server to use remotely.

> why offline. anywhere. separately, if you purchase anything from Dell to Framework, you quickly learn there's no "apple tax", there's a cost for a type of engineering to a given spec (for oranges to oranges "TCO" you should spec all the things, including screen, energy, and resale value ), and it's comparable from any manufacture, with the Apple resale value dropping their TCO lower than the others.

Yeah I suppose if you wanna hike up a mountain & still be able to use a full sized model then, yeah. But be my guest, I ain't doing that any time soon!
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