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Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Is Lenz happy with how he operates his company?

The GP says they were acquired a few years ago. So the question should be if Lenz is happy with how those who brought his company are now running it? Of course that is not the kind of question that a founder should ever answer candidly on the internet :)

Correct. The company was sold many years ago. So I have no idea if he is happy

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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It should be illegal for any company to rely on AI or automation to handle legal risks, especially without any human driven support to fall back on. The fact we're handling over things this serious to unreliable and poorly configured systems feels like absolute insanity to me.

Also, why is the domain registrar even being contacted here? I thought the general idea was that you'd first contact the site owner and wait for a response, and if there's no response in a certain amount of time, then you might contact the registrar or something. No one should be going over the heads of website owners and creators for matters like this, especially not as their first resort.

In a logical world, they'd contact Itch.io and Itch.io would take down the page (which they did), and that would be it. No need to involve the registrar at all in a case like this one.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Oh damn, I didn't know this! I've used their services for ages and even got to briefly meet the founders once in Wellington who gave a talk on Erlang. Ah well, while it sucks that the good times may be over, I'm glad the founders got their exit :)

> I'm glad the founders got their exit I'm not. I mean, I am happy for them but this concept of growing a business to an exit is not going well for society as a whole (at least the exits that are in my areas of interest, so I assume it extrapolates to all exits). Every single business that gets bought out gets instantly enshittified in one way or another, always to the detriment of the customer. Depending on how entr…

Agreed. Promising stuff like "Hey we built this because everything else is bad" and then years later selling it to a company that turns it bad is somehow even worse than classic bait and switch.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Like I frequently¹ advise²:

Don’t look to large, well-known registrars. I would suggest that you look for local registrars in your area. The TLD registry for your country/area usually has a list of the authorized registrars, so you can simply search that for entities with a local address.

Disclaimer: I work at such a small registrar, but you are not in our target market.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32095499>

2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32507784>

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Slight off topic but interesting that the post has similar interaction stats (replies and reposts/quotes) between Twitter and Bluesky except the likes which are 3x higher on the former https://files.catbox.moe/82x7ue.jpeg

BlueSky seems to be far less like-oriented. They aren't just a good metric of engagement there. People read and move on. If it might be helpful to others, they will repost, and that's it.

Besides, with 26K followers on BlueSky vs 173K on Twitter, I'd say the engagement on the former is significantly higher any way.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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> I'm not trying to be a corporate bootlicker Perhaps it comes naturally ;) No, but seriously, you may be giving them a bit too much benefit of the doubt. There's a little more context here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42364033 Note the "fraud and phishing" complaint. Like, I don't see _any_ way to get to that from what's going on, and of course registrars (correctly) take such complaints far more seriously…

If the page said "Enter your Funko details to unlock…" or "Give us your credit card details to buy exclusive…" Then I think it would be pretty reasonable to ask for it to be taken down. But none of us know what was on that page or whether it was an overreaction.

> But none of us know what was on that page

I mean... we do? It is described here; top post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42364033

To be clear, there is no issue with them making a DMCA takedown. This should be made to the operator (ie itch.io). They _did not do this_. Instead they complained to the registrar of phishing/fraud. Registrars, not unreasonably, take complaints of fraud seriously, and many will nuke first and answer questions later. However, clearly, no fraud was involved.

(I'm not sure if you're being wilfully obtuse, or if you suffer from the ol' Hackernews "reading the linked material is forbidden" problem, but I just don't see how you can defend the false complaint of fraud.)

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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I'm in the outraged crowd and there should be pretty serious consequences, but it is important in the interest of justice to differentiate between fraud, negligence, and gross incompetence.

As long as you have some automated AI bot sent all the reports. It’s never fraud, you couldn’t have known it would do that.

Looks like AI is becoming a perfect excuse to do whatever you like.

It's like having a dangerous dog that usually doesn't bite, but you really cannot know if it will change its mind one day. Do you just let such dog walk the streets without owner supervision?

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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man, this shit is ridiculous.. now we can't even make fan pages? Will you be moving away from this registrar? It seems like it could very easily be abused again.

Some companies have always been terrible about this. Fan projects involving companies like Nintendo or Take Two Interactive (GTA) are like lawyer bait. Disney has hired lawyers to sue a daycare center that had (clearly unofficial) character art painted on the walls. It's dystopic, but it's the world we live in. I didn't really expect Funko or 10:10 Games to be like that, but then again I didn't expect anyone would li…

Just gonna point out that the Nintendo going after fanworks bit is a tad blown out of proportion, especially online. They're definitely known for being way too heavy handed (especially compared to the likes of Sega), but they're not exactly going after every fan project they see on the internet. Large sites whose entire purpose is to host fan games and mods for the Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, etc series have been up for decades without any issues, and most mods and homebrew projects for consoles older than the Wii U or Switch are going fine.

Unless a project is going viral in the media, raking up in a significant amount of money via a paywall or is directly competing with a current game, the chances of it getting shut down are incredibly low.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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I feel like it's better to have a "do use" list for something as important as a domain name registrar. - Namecheap - Cloudflare - Route 53 (if on AWS) Any others?

Route 53 is outrageously expensive for domains, one should only use it, if they need AWS’s DNS product.

You can use any registrar with R53, so it's more like: if you really need to have domain registration written in Terraform and the other registrar doesn't provide it

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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That kyc thingy is icann requirement, its how domain registration works. Icann require every accredited registrar to verify registrant details so registrar would randomly ask for id, passport etc. That include porkbun, they're bound to their contract with icann as an accredited registrar too. They probably won't ask today but maybe tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or next year, or never.

> That kyc thingy is icann requirement Is it really? Or just contact info is enough?

The requirement in the contract is nowhere near that specific. Contact info validation is sufficient for almost all registrars. It's possible a given registry has higher standards, or maybe one registrar got some order to be more thorough, but great reason to avoid given this is a commodity and there are actually good alternatives. (I broadly like Tucows and Cloudflare)

Namecheap is on my NO NO NO list, along with GoDaddy (and a bunch of others). Google Domains was also on this OH GOD NO list, but thankfully Google did the Google thing and killed the product.

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