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Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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I understand that peoppe usually use medium PI boards for electronic projects. But other that, isn't it more cost effective and organized if you get minipc (something like N100 kit) for projects like backups machine or selfhosting projects?

You can get a few generations old mini PCs with 16GB RAM and SSD at the same price as a PI.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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How usable is the PI5 as a desktop PC replacement? The PI4 was too slow to run anything serious.

I was testing it for web dev, it's much better than the Pi 400/Pi 4 in that regard[1].

Still not near Apple M1 class performance, so you have to adjust expectations for media, creative stuff. But most things I've tested work fine now on the Pi if it works in Linux at all, which is a bit nicer than last time I tried 4 years ago.

[1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/pi-500-much-faster-la...

Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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post #3

No nvme port, or is there a nifty fix?

It's missing the connector and power components on the PCB so you may be able to solder them all on yourself if you have the parts but it's going to be a pain in the ass :D

Yeah; I attempted to solder on the slot... but realized after attempting it that all the power circuit components on the underside are also unpopulated. So you'd have to reverse-engineer that, get the components, solder all of them (many are tiny SMD), and solder on a couple caps on the top PCIe traces, and finally an M.2 slot on the pads up top.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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The word "Mediocre" comes to mind. Still using Micro HDMI, weirdly added unusable nvme ensuring people know its not the final product and if they want nvme they'll be having to pay for a replacement at some point down the line, plus increasing the price by around 30%. Feels very much like they've given up even pretending to try and understand what their customers want. The micro hdmi thing is just incredibly stupid,…

It would be understandable if they kept the same case mold... but they did in fact reorder the ports.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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post #2

The word "Mediocre" comes to mind. Still using Micro HDMI, weirdly added unusable nvme ensuring people know its not the final product and if they want nvme they'll be having to pay for a replacement at some point down the line, plus increasing the price by around 30%. Feels very much like they've given up even pretending to try and understand what their customers want. The micro hdmi thing is just incredibly stupid,…

It would be understandable if they kept the same case mold... but they did in fact reorder the ports.

Yeah that part makes it even more odd as instead of one new mold they now need 2 if/when they do add the nvme support.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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post #4

I understand that peoppe usually use medium PI boards for electronic projects. But other that, isn't it more cost effective and organized if you get minipc (something like N100 kit) for projects like backups machine or selfhosting projects?

You can get a few generations old mini PCs with 16GB RAM and SSD at the same price as a PI.

You can get brand new, current-gen (Alder Lake) mini PCs with those specs for the same price as a PI + storage + case + PSU.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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I like the idea of a cheap pc/keyboard combination, it's a bit of nostalgia for the olden days of the the amiga 500 or the c64 or the atari st, but I also think it would still work great as a form factor, like mac mini inside a keyboard, maybe? But it has to be done right. Why in the pi 500 they kept the mini hdmi and did not add a connector for m.2 is a bit beyond me. There apparently is space and marking for an nvme on the board, but no connector.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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A lot of scorn for this latest offering from Pi, but I think perspective is important here. No, most of us here do not have a use for the Pi 500 or it's display, but in part so the world where a lightweight low-consumption device can open some doors for connectivity and learning, this looks like a great solution.

We tend to forget that not everyone on the planet has the same resources or needs we do.

Re: Raspberry Pi 500 Review: The keyboard is the computer, again

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post #9

> 45% colour gamut $100 for an e-waste monitor is poor value, for that money you can get a portable monitor with full sRGB, high refresh rate, etc

It's strange that they don't specify what gamut. I think it's possible that they mean 45% of the entire CIE gamut, which would be slightly larger than sRGB.

(It's an odd way of specifying a monitor though, usually manufacturers specify as a fraction of either Adobe RGB or Display P3.)

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