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UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by pixxel »

whycome wrote: post #167
daseiner1 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent commenter didn’t write anything to the contrary; obviously the median child gets more excited by those two things than the median adult. I really loathe these sort of “gotcha” comments.

> Parent commenter didn’t write anything to the contrary; Did I imply that? Are "colorful cartoon characters" the part that's "deeply irresponsible" or just the misleading health claims? If you prevent the latter then you don't have anything to attach the former to. > I really loathe these sort of “gotcha” comments. I don't get what part of my comment was the 'gotcha'

> I don't get what part of my comment was the 'gotcha

Watching day-time cartoons will do that.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by fakedang »

thanksgiving wrote: post #150
fakedang wrote: post #138

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Don't you need to donate at least $100k to influence senators or influence party positions in the US? Sure, you could "buy" a politician for cheaper, but you're not guaranteeing they will toe your line. India is ridiculously expensive - bribes often amount to 50 lakh rupees to 1 crore + rupees, which amounts to roughly $50k-100k per politician. Not to mention bribery at the lower rungs of the ladder where everyone fr…

That's not a good thing. From what I understand, a lot of "cheaper" bribes in India are for things that the government employees must do as a part of their jobs so like a bribe for these government employees to do their job basically which still filters up to the highest levels of government. Why would you agree to stick your neck out for something illegal on the cheap when you can wring the ordinary people to do you…

I'm not saying it's a good or a bad thing - bribery is bad, full stop. I wanted to draw a comparison between how expensive it is in India vs the UK, which means that a relatively smaller pool of individuals can actually afford to bribe in India vs the UK, which makes projects more concentrated in the hands of a few (which is still a lot in a bit country like India).

On the other hand, I was a member of the Treasury group and the Leaders group of the Tory party until recently, with just a "paltry" donation of £50k, which got me the ear of a sitting PM and regular meetings with the Chancellor. Good luck trying to get that kind of access in India or the US with the PM.

The cheaper bribes were a tangent, but just to show that doing business in India is actually more expensive than in the UK (where there are no such bribes).

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by fakedang »

kd5bjo wrote: post #179
throwaway2037 wrote: post #157

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This is an interesting observation. Why do you think it is so much lower in UK Vs US? My guess: There are much less private donations in the national UK political system.

US congressional districts being an order of magnitude larger than UK constituencies probably has something to do with it. Also, there are significantly more MPs than representatives, so you have to swing more legislators to your side in the UK vs the US to get your pet policies adopted. (Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_ap... , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituencies_of_the_Par…

But you can get a seat at the table for negotiations if the Tories are in power and you're a part of the Leaders group or the Treasury group of donors. All for £50k.

Leaders group puts you in touch with the Tory party leader (who is often the PM if the Tories are in power). Treasury group invites you to meetings with the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by ilyin »

tomp wrote: post #129
Krutonium wrote: post #40

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In Canada, it's outright illegal to sell a burger medium done. If you get caught, your restaurant will be closed for a couple weeks minimum, along with a hefty fine. It must be fully cooked, or not served.

That doesn’t make sense. It’s beef. If you can serve a steak medium, then you can also grind the steak, cook it medium and serve it.

A whole steak doesn't contain pathogens deep within, only on the surface, which is why ground beef is different situation entirely.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by eviks »

hermitcrab wrote: post #130
shric wrote: post #122

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The punter does not win on average with stocks due to fees and spread.

IIRC average stock market returns have historically been around 7% per year. Index funds charge around 1% per year. My stock ISAs have gone up pretty much every year (after inflation and fees).

> Index funds

That's not what the ads for the stock trading platforms want you to do

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by Woeps »

userbinator wrote: post #56
Eumenes wrote: post #18

this is exactly the type of policy you'd expect from a governing body that is completely out of touch with the working class. I can imagine the cambridge, UCL, and oxford graduates patting eachother on the back after the meeting, congratulating themselves on solving childhood obesity.

It's what you'd expect of a country that's rapidly diving into Orwellian dystopia.

Uhm... the country we're talking about is the UK. Not some US state...

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by shric »

hermitcrab wrote: post #130
shric wrote: post #122

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The punter does not win on average with stocks due to fees and spread.

IIRC average stock market returns have historically been around 7% per year. Index funds charge around 1% per year. My stock ISAs have gone up pretty much every year (after inflation and fees).

I was very careful with my words. I said:

> The punter does not win on average with stocks due to fees and spread.

Literally 100% of my investing is the stock market. I have so much faith in the stock market that I rent because I don't want to waste the opportunity cost on equity in property.

A punter is informal slang for a person who gambles. I buy and hold a diversified portfolio of index funds over decades. I am very much not a punter.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by shric »

quickthrowman wrote: post #215
hermitcrab wrote: post #130

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IIRC average stock market returns have historically been around 7% per year. Index funds charge around 1% per year. My stock ISAs have gone up pretty much every year (after inflation and fees).

1% is quite extreme, the S&P 500 fund I use (FXAIX) charges .015% per year which is almost 70 times less expensive than 1%.

Indeed, I am mostly in ASX:IVV (another S&P 500 ETF) and it charges 0.04% per year.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by aembleton »

petesergeant wrote: post #57
amelius wrote: post #34

Can we have one or several months without ads of any kind? Perhaps then we can appreciate a world without ads more. It might also reduce the environmental burden of overconsumption.

Move to the UK and only watch the BBC, and yes

Plenty of guests on shows promoting a new film or book. We still have billboards advertising stuff.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by aembleton »

deskr wrote: post #222
beejiu wrote: post #72

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They are not banned. They are on "the list" (as the article says) meaning they must be scored using the "NPM model". Only scores exceeding 4 are "banned", which will include sweetened oats.

>must be scored using the "NPM model". Only scores exceeding 4 are "banned", which will include sweetened oats Thanks. Do you have a link to "the list" and this NPM model scoring system?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7cdac7e5274...
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