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UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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So parents buy unhealthy food for their children without any prompting, and the kids need to have their minds opened to it by advertising, otherwise they wouldn't it?

I'm sure the cartoons and colors help the kids get motivated to eat the cereal

I'm pretty sure the massive amounts of sugar is all the motivation they need.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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An interesting wrinkle in the cigarettes example is it’s illegal sell them to kids. So advertising to kids is actively trying to conduct an illegal transaction.

As far as I know, the US bans all tobacco advertising on TV. And obviously adults can still smoke.

Radio and TV has long had more limited free speech protections because it’s a shared and thus finite resource. Thus the fines for curse words, nudity, etc.

Banning in magazines targeting kids is a separate question.

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For those unaware, this comment is referring to premium bonds in the UK[1]. It is a very interesting system, I agree! But there are quite a few parts of the system that make it way more fair than a lottery. Most obviously, it doesn't cost to enter. So the most you can "lose" is a missed interest income from putting the money in another source. After that, it's definitely the fact that the algorithm is designed to bot…

In New Zealand this scheme was called "Bonus Bonds" and was wound up on 26 February 2024. Interest was charged on "wins" just like any other income. Apparently the average return was a paltry 1.5%.

Everyone knew someone's uncle who swore blind that he made heaps on the bonus bonds and had all his money "invested" in there, but I received some around my 10th birthday and they never struck a single prize. In 40 years.

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I don't have enough experience about India to comment on that but in the US the amount of money it takes to influence a politician is quite low.

How much do you estimate it would take to get a politician to flip their view on abortion, gun control, illegal immigration, health care? Seems like if it were "quite low" you'd see politicians flipping views all the time as one side or the other channelled money to them. What we actually see is a lot of stasis, refusal to compromise, and politicians locked in with their party, which suggests it is pretty hard to inf…

Those are all hot-button issues that can make someone lose their seat. Unless you have enough money that they never have to work again, not going to happen. Almost nobody outside of HN notices the DMCA, but it’s there.

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The punter does not win on average with stocks due to fees and spread.

IIRC average stock market returns have historically been around 7% per year. Index funds charge around 1% per year. My stock ISAs have gone up pretty much every year (after inflation and fees).

1% is quite extreme, the S&P 500 fund I use (FXAIX) charges .015% per year which is almost 70 times less expensive than 1%.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Well I didn't understand how -besides the cereals maybe- are unhealthy > Breakfast cereals including ready-to-eat cereals, granola, muesli, porridge oats and other oat-based cereals. until I re-read and saw this: > But the new restrictions will not apply to healthier options such as natural porridge oats and unsweetened yoghurt. So I think it's not clear in the first sentence but "ready-to-eat" is meant to apply to a…

I'm a bit confused as I thought muesli was healthy.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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You've moved the goalpost! No, the issue is that fruit flavors and cartoon characters are abused to appeal to children. That is what the original comment said and which you only half replied to! The video provided to you was an example of such - cartoons and 'fruit flavors' to hook kids on wanting sugary cereals for breakfast.

Moved goalpoast? > No, the issue is that fruit flavors and cartoon characters are abused to appeal to children. That is what the original comment said That's not what they said. They said: > It's deeply irresponsible how we allow advertisements and Big Sugar/Fast Food companies to exploit colorful cartoon characters and misleading health claims to hook people I don't think the cartoon characters is the part of the pr…

The purpose of the commercial is to create demand where there otherwise would not have been. Do you think that demand comes from the parents or the children? Which parts of the commercial do you think are most important for fomenting this demand?

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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I don't have enough experience about India to comment on that but in the US the amount of money it takes to influence a politician is quite low.

How much do you estimate it would take to get a politician to flip their view on abortion, gun control, illegal immigration, health care? Seems like if it were "quite low" you'd see politicians flipping views all the time as one side or the other channelled money to them. What we actually see is a lot of stasis, refusal to compromise, and politicians locked in with their party, which suggests it is pretty hard to inf…

"Buying a politician to vote in a certain way" is not really how it works most of the time. It's more "buying time with a politician so you can give the best possible explanation for your case without any counter-argument". Turns out, that is surprisingly effective, especially when there isn't really an organised counter-movement with similar funds to get politicians ears.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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I'm sure the cartoons and colors help the kids get motivated to eat the cereal

I'm pretty sure the massive amounts of sugar is all the motivation they need.

How do they know it has sugar just by looking at the food or the packaging?

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Well I didn't understand how -besides the cereals maybe- are unhealthy > Breakfast cereals including ready-to-eat cereals, granola, muesli, porridge oats and other oat-based cereals. until I re-read and saw this: > But the new restrictions will not apply to healthier options such as natural porridge oats and unsweetened yoghurt. So I think it's not clear in the first sentence but "ready-to-eat" is meant to apply to a…

I'm a bit confused as I thought muesli was healthy.

It's healthy from the point of having fiber if you have no fruit and vegetables in your diet but at the same time it's 30% or more sugar.
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