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UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by frereubu »

phyzix5761 wrote: post #141
majormajor wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more "we don't want corporations selling unhealthy junk to have direct access to influence super-impressional kids" - cause guess what, in that case? You can be a perfectly responsible parent dietary-decision-wise, but have your kids whine and complain constantly because the kids aren't informed about the problems of it and just want the tasty shit they saw all the ads for. Would you allow salespeople into your…

As a parent I don't let my children watch things I disagree with. They can probably count the number of food ads they've seen in 1 hand because I don't let them watch TV. They can watch shows and movies but they're either streamed or checked out of the library. But that's the way I choose to parent my child. If another parent wants their children to watch TV and be exposed to those ads then they should have every rig…

What about the (large, I would argue) slice of parents who want to let their kids watch TV but don't want them bombarded with ads for sugar-saturated foods?

(I mean, we're on HN, so the obvious answer is watching things on a laptop / projector with Firefox + uBlock Origin, but y'know - everyone else).

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by throwaway2037 »

thanksgiving wrote: post #151
justincormack wrote: post #105

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there are taxes, but they are largely on the earnings of the gaming companies

It makes sense though if I think about it. In theory, all the money wagered is money that has already paid income tax at some point so why tax it again?

Because gambling is so terrible for your society!

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by switch007 »

ajb wrote: post #154
narrator wrote: post #135

Is there a name for an ideology that says all social and economic problems can be solved through mass psychology? You could call it psychohistory perhaps, but there's got to be a newer term. Seems like it's the dominant ideology of a variety of technocrats. Yes there are psychological aspects to governance but more and more it's becoming the only solution to all problems. Obesity is skyrocketing? It's the psychology.…

The recent fashionable term is "nudge theory"

See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioural_Insights_Team as an implementation

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by throwaway2037 »

hinkley wrote: post #47
anotheracc88 wrote: post #37

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Even better, pay that money into a pension and buy a lottery ticket.

Pensions sort of already are a lottery. Can’t collect if you’re dead. Live to 95 and they help a lot. Though inflation will still getcha in the end.

By this reasoning, isn't buying equities also gambling? Hint: It is not.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by whycome »

BowBun wrote: post #117
whycome wrote: post #108

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Isn’t the issue there the claims of “fruit flavours” easily misinterpreted as having actual fruit and including vitamin c prominently when it’s just fortified.

You've moved the goalpost! No, the issue is that fruit flavors and cartoon characters are abused to appeal to children. That is what the original comment said and which you only half replied to! The video provided to you was an example of such - cartoons and 'fruit flavors' to hook kids on wanting sugary cereals for breakfast.

Moved goalpoast?

> No, the issue is that fruit flavors and cartoon characters are abused to appeal to children. That is what the original comment said

That's not what they said. They said:

> It's deeply irresponsible how we allow advertisements and Big Sugar/Fast Food companies to exploit colorful cartoon characters and misleading health claims to hook people

I don't think the cartoon characters is the part of the problem to address. And I think that aspect becomes irrelevant when addressing the actual problem. (And 'Fruit flavours' was my addition and question not theirs)

What part of my comment "only half replied"? I asked two questions in relation to the comment. I mentioned "colourful cartoon characters" and "fruit flavours" because those are examples of things that "appeal to kids" even though they have wider audiences. Canada (and other countries?) want to ban flavours from e-cigarettes because of the appeal to youth (and limiting it to just mint, menthol and tobacco). Why should an adult be limited to mint as a flavour for an age-controlled product? Why shouldn't an advertiser be allowed to use colorful cartoon characters?

Moved goalpost? Aren't we saying the same thing here? The video, and similar breakfast cereals, are perfect examples of the actual problem. It uses the combination of cartoons and false health claims. The false health claims are the parts that are problematic - that's the part to eliminate. The informational part of that video (and the box information design!) is meant to appeal to (read: mislead) adults, not kids.

Allowing false health claims for unhealthy products is an issue. Miseducating parents and adults about what's healthy is an issue. Suppressing how terrible excess sugar is for children and adults is an issue. Allowing lines like "how about fruit flavours"? (in video) and showing pictures of fruit is an issue. Allowing producers to hide how unhealthy something is by saying it's "healthy when part of a balanced breakfast" is an issue. Even now, nutrition information or prominent labels for cereals can include the values (eg protein) when one consumes it with milk!

Change that and what does that video or other ads for cereals become?

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by throwaway2037 »

iamacyborg wrote: post #43
optimalsolver wrote: post #10

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>Can we do gambling ads next? As long as we ban ads for stock trading platforms (i.e. gambling for the professional classes) at the same time.

Wait until you hear about how CFD trading is legal in large parts of the world.

Is the payout on a CFD the same as a future or forward?

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by whycome »

daseiner1 wrote: post #46
whycome wrote: post #42

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Are adults not allowed to like colourful cartoon characters? Fruit flavours?

Parent commenter didn’t write anything to the contrary; obviously the median child gets more excited by those two things than the median adult. I really loathe these sort of “gotcha” comments.

> Parent commenter didn’t write anything to the contrary;

Did I imply that? Are "colorful cartoon characters" the part that's "deeply irresponsible" or just the misleading health claims? If you prevent the latter then you don't have anything to attach the former to.

> I really loathe these sort of “gotcha” comments.

I don't get what part of my comment was the 'gotcha'

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by eterm »

jamesu wrote: post #158

One thing I noticed is during UK Daytime TV is there are a comical amount of funeral and life insurance ads, it's incredibly depressing.

That's the demographics of who watches daytime TV.

Also note that advertising of prescription pharmaceuticals is already banned, which would likely be another large advertiser were that not the case.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by WWLink »

chgs wrote: post #52
bobthepanda wrote: post #19

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more so in the past, there was a lot more food advertising directed at kids, because the thought was that kids could annoy their parents enough to drag the whole family to an establishment. and some marketing tricks work a lot better on children because of their social settings and general impulsiveness (e.g. "All the cool kids have Lunchables")

The milky bar kid is strong and tough The red car and the blue car had a race Turn the milk chocolatey Keep hunger locked up tip lunch I have tried to avoid adverts for 20 years, but the adverts of my childhood (not just ones aimed at kids - autoglass repair and replace, safe style do buy one get one free, dfs sale ends Sunday, ronseal quick drying wood stain does exactly what it says on the tin) The brainwashing is…

HEAD ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!!!!!

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by Angostura »

narrator wrote: post #135

Is there a name for an ideology that says all social and economic problems can be solved through mass psychology? You could call it psychohistory perhaps, but there's got to be a newer term. Seems like it's the dominant ideology of a variety of technocrats. Yes there are psychological aspects to governance but more and more it's becoming the only solution to all problems. Obesity is skyrocketing? It's the psychology.…

You may be thinking of Nudge Theory
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