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UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by phyzix5761 »

majormajor wrote: post #126
phyzix5761 wrote: post #113

Help me understand. The UK government basically said that parents are not responsible enough to make dietary decisions for their children so the government needs to step in and do it for them? Does that not seem like an overreach? Its not like 4 year olds are driving to McDonald's by themselves and ordering burgers. The parents are the ones being targeted here.

It's more "we don't want corporations selling unhealthy junk to have direct access to influence super-impressional kids" - cause guess what, in that case? You can be a perfectly responsible parent dietary-decision-wise, but have your kids whine and complain constantly because the kids aren't informed about the problems of it and just want the tasty shit they saw all the ads for. Would you allow salespeople into your…

As a parent I don't let my children watch things I disagree with. They can probably count the number of food ads they've seen in 1 hand because I don't let them watch TV. They can watch shows and movies but they're either streamed or checked out of the library.

But that's the way I choose to parent my child. If another parent wants their children to watch TV and be exposed to those ads then they should have every right. I'm not going to make a moral decision for them and I don't think the government should either.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by nonrandomstring »

narrator wrote: post #135

Is there a name for an ideology that says all social and economic problems can be solved through mass psychology? You could call it psychohistory perhaps, but there's got to be a newer term. Seems like it's the dominant ideology of a variety of technocrats. Yes there are psychological aspects to governance but more and more it's becoming the only solution to all problems. Obesity is skyrocketing? It's the psychology.…

Public Relations - Edward Bernays [0]

Propaganda - Edward Bernays in 1928 [1]

Public opinion - Walter Lippmann 1947 [2]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Relations_(book)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_(book)

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by ausbah »

narrator wrote: post #135

Is there a name for an ideology that says all social and economic problems can be solved through mass psychology? You could call it psychohistory perhaps, but there's got to be a newer term. Seems like it's the dominant ideology of a variety of technocrats. Yes there are psychological aspects to governance but more and more it's becoming the only solution to all problems. Obesity is skyrocketing? It's the psychology.…

something involving ppl following whatever the political or media firestorm of the moment is, and most ppl more likely to just follow whatever the party line is?

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by phyzix5761 »

jraph wrote: post #127
phyzix5761 wrote: post #113

Help me understand. The UK government basically said that parents are not responsible enough to make dietary decisions for their children so the government needs to step in and do it for them? Does that not seem like an overreach? Its not like 4 year olds are driving to McDonald's by themselves and ordering burgers. The parents are the ones being targeted here.

Children are totally targeted. They will ask their parents and put pressure to buy them stuff. Maybe even the parents who don't cave in can be relieved of this. In the longer term, stuff that enters your brain as a child shapes you and lasts long. See how well how many people in their 30s remember ads of their childhood. Why would someone defend such ads anyway? I don't believe they achieve anything good for anyone e…

Its because I don't want the government, people who I've never met in person and honestly are not the most moral of individuals, making moral decisions for my children on my behalf.

Even if the majority of citizens agreed that forcing their morality on the minority is the right thing to do I still disagree because individual freedom is more important than majority opinion.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by wrboyce »

cryptozeus wrote: post #81

Good that they are trying but “ …aired after the 9:00 pm” running ads after 9 pm is even worst. If you need to consume sugar you might as well do it in day time.

A lot of the regulations around what is and isn’t allowed on TV in the UK change at 2100, we call it the “watershed” which is regulated by OfCom (the communications ombudsman).

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-st...

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by phyzix5761 »

mirsadm wrote: post #132
phyzix5761 wrote: post #113

Help me understand. The UK government basically said that parents are not responsible enough to make dietary decisions for their children so the government needs to step in and do it for them? Does that not seem like an overreach? Its not like 4 year olds are driving to McDonald's by themselves and ordering burgers. The parents are the ones being targeted here.

Do you have children? They're targeted with ads everywhere . You can be a responsible parent but these things cause unnecessary stress. Quite frankly if the government wants to ban all advertising I would be thrilled.

I do have children and I don't let them be exposed to things I disagree with. But thats my moral decision. Why should my morality be forced on others? Making the decision to not expose your children to certain ads is a moral decision. Let the parents choose if its important for them. They can choose exactly what kind of content their children watch with streaming and DVDs. Long gone are the days where kids just sat in front a television and had to watch live cable TV where the parents didn't know what was coming up next.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by thenickdude »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #45
jsheard wrote: post #5

Can we do gambling ads next? We banned tobacco ads and then seemingly forgot the lesson that it's actually bad to let advertisers shove addictive and self-destructive products in the publics face, including to former addicts at risk of relapse.

It's interesting that the UK has banned gambling ads online, but not on TV. Combined with the fact that they regulate cryptocurrencies as gambling, that's why you get no UK crypto ads online. For example, the PayPal UK front page doesn't even mention that you can buy crypto there.

You can buy crypto on PayPal?? Our New Zealand version doesn't mention it either.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by WD-42 »

phyzix5761 wrote: post #116
WD-42 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Children pretty much have to eat what you give them until they get a job. If true why do cereal companies spend billions on advertising directly to children? For the fun of it?

I think its so children are open to eating it after the parents have bought it. If the food doesn't look appealing the parent will have to work harder but its the parents making the food choices not the child. Most of the time children don't even go to the grocery store with their parents.

Tell me you have never had kids without telling me you’ve never had kids.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by phyzix5761 »

WD-42 wrote: post #148
phyzix5761 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think its so children are open to eating it after the parents have bought it. If the food doesn't look appealing the parent will have to work harder but its the parents making the food choices not the child. Most of the time children don't even go to the grocery store with their parents.

Tell me you have never had kids without telling me you’ve never had kids.

I have children

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by thanksgiving »

fakedang wrote: post #138
saagarjha wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have enough experience about India to comment on that but in the US the amount of money it takes to influence a politician is quite low.

Don't you need to donate at least $100k to influence senators or influence party positions in the US? Sure, you could "buy" a politician for cheaper, but you're not guaranteeing they will toe your line. India is ridiculously expensive - bribes often amount to 50 lakh rupees to 1 crore + rupees, which amounts to roughly $50k-100k per politician. Not to mention bribery at the lower rungs of the ladder where everyone fr…

That's not a good thing. From what I understand, a lot of "cheaper" bribes in India are for things that the government employees must do as a part of their jobs so like a bribe for these government employees to do their job basically which still filters up to the highest levels of government.

Why would you agree to stick your neck out for something illegal on the cheap when you can wring the ordinary people to do your job?

All this is based on second hand information so please correct me where I am wrong. Also probably things are different in different parts of the country?

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