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Difference in Gastrointestinal Cancer Risk and Mortality by Dietary Patterns

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Re: Difference in Gastrointestinal Cancer Risk and Mortality by Dietary Patterns

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Unhealthy characterized by red meat? When are are going to move away from the stigma that saturated fats cause health issues

“Red meat causes cancer” from self-reported diets of cheeseburgers and other processed foods.

This study lumps read meat with processed foods and alcohol consumption. Not much to go on for conclusions at that rate

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> The healthy dietary pattern was characterized by a higher intake of fruits, whole grains, legumes, vegetables, milk, and other dairy products, whereas the unhealthy dietary pattern was characterized by a higher intake of red and processed meat, alcohol, and both refined and sugar-sweetened beverages.

Can't help but feel that the results would've been more informative if they excluded alcohol. We already know alcohol causes cancer, with this setup we can't really tell how much of the difference was the food and how much was the drinking.

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> The healthy dietary pattern was characterized by a higher intake of fruits, whole grains, legumes, vegetables, milk, and other dairy products, whereas the unhealthy dietary pattern was characterized by a higher intake of red and processed meat, alcohol, and both refined and sugar-sweetened beverages. Can't help but feel that the results would've been more informative if they excluded alcohol. We already know alcoho…

People who drink expensive whiskey for sure live longer than people who drink cheap whiskey

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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stomach-c... suggests Mongolian, Japanese and Korean diets are the worst. What do their diets have in common? High traditional intake of distilled alcohol, pickled foods, and meat. IIRC pickled foods are alkaline and weaken the stomach's acidic environ, exposing stomach lining to compounding damage from alcohol, chilli, etc.

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It may help that I hate soft drinks and don't like alcohol. But I'll never give up bread, pizza, pasta and chocolate. Anyhow, better n happy years than (n + x) miserable years, and where x remains unknown.

> But I'll never give up bread, pizza, pasta and chocolate.

Give it a few years, and your pancreas might very well come knocking with type II news.

At that point, the 'x' in your equation will carry a lot more weight than you might be able to reckon right now, especially if you have children by then.

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> The healthy dietary pattern was characterized by a higher intake of fruits, whole grains, legumes, vegetables, milk, and other dairy products, whereas the unhealthy dietary pattern was characterized by a higher intake of red and processed meat, alcohol, and both refined and sugar-sweetened beverages. Can't help but feel that the results would've been more informative if they excluded alcohol. We already know alcoho…

People who drink expensive whiskey for sure live longer than people who drink cheap whiskey

Wealth being correlated with better health outcomes is nothing new either

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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stomach-c... suggests Mongolian, Japanese and Korean diets are the worst. What do their diets have in common? High traditional intake of distilled alcohol, pickled foods, and meat. IIRC pickled foods are alkaline and weaken the stomach's acidic environ, exposing stomach lining to compounding damage from alcohol, chilli, etc.

Pickles usually contain vinegar for preservation, which is highly acidic. So they are often acidic, not alcaline, and won't weaken anything

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who drink expensive whiskey for sure live longer than people who drink cheap whiskey

Wealth being correlated with better health outcomes is nothing new either

Strange that it's not controlled for then!
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