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UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by petesergeant »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #13

I could see supporting with this, but it does seem like an abuse of the 'for the children' argument for this. Children pretty much have to eat what you give them until they get a job. Also some chicken nuggets are bad, but some average a gram of protein per 10 calories, which is a pretty good ratio, and especially for frozen food. Can't help but think this is too broad.

> Children pretty much have to eat what you give them until they get a job.

I don’t think this is true in practice; it feels sufficiently obvious that children’s tastes influence what they get fed that I’m not going to bother to find a citation

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by chrisjj »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #26
dmart wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m assuming they mean stuff like Quaker oatmeal packets which are half sugar.

My kids love natural porridge, however there is a constant battle about how much honey they are allowed to drown them in. :)

I am amazed honey is not on this list of "junk" foods.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by alexchamberlain »

stego-tech wrote: post #22
optimalsolver wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Can we do gambling ads next? As long as we ban ads for stock trading platforms (i.e. gambling for the professional classes) at the same time.

I think a fair and reasonable advertisement policy is to ban all advertisements during "children's programming hours", or 0800 to 1600 when school is not in session. During "Prime Time" hours of 0500-0800 and 1600-2300, adverts should be limited to luxury goods (e.g., fashion), government PSAs, and non-addictive goods or services (NO drugs, NO tobacco, NO gambling, and NO stock trading, to name but a few). Between 23…

I wonder what proportion of children are still watching mainstream TV? My son (4) mainly watches Disney+ and Netflix.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by chrisjj »

zabzonk wrote: post #50
lijok wrote: post #4

Baffling to me how advertising to those without a stable source of above living-cost income is allowed in the first place. Let alone advertising to children.

How do you select for "those without a stable source of above living-cost income?

Ration TVs, obviously :)

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by kgwgk »

petesergeant wrote: post #55
hinkley wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pensions sort of already are a lottery. Can’t collect if you’re dead. Live to 95 and they help a lot. Though inflation will still getcha in the end.

> Pensions sort of already are a lottery Annuities maybe, but those aren’t the only kind of pensions

That seems the definition of pension. You may be thinking of something else.

  pension

  a regular income paid by a government or a financial organization to someone who no longer works, usually because of their age or health

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by dylan604 »

Krutonium wrote: post #40
tomp wrote: post #12

Wow, what's wrong with burgers? I mean, certainly you can get bad meat, and maybe it's easier to conceal in a burger than in a steak, but ... how about literally all other processed meat that is invariably processed more than burgers? Salami, sausages, hot dogs, ... I personally love burger, and consider it one of the finest foods. Fortunately, there's a very easy way to know the quality of a burger - if they ask you…

In Canada, it's outright illegal to sell a burger medium done. If you get caught, your restaurant will be closed for a couple weeks minimum, along with a hefty fine. It must be fully cooked, or not served.

seriously? No medium well, just straight up well done? So, hockey pucks? Ahh, now it makes sense. It's a law endowed by Canada's love of hockey

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by beejiu »

Pet_Ant wrote: post #8

Well I didn't understand how -besides the cereals maybe- are unhealthy > Breakfast cereals including ready-to-eat cereals, granola, muesli, porridge oats and other oat-based cereals. until I re-read and saw this: > But the new restrictions will not apply to healthier options such as natural porridge oats and unsweetened yoghurt. So I think it's not clear in the first sentence but "ready-to-eat" is meant to apply to a…

There's a lot of misinformation going around about how the legislation works.

All porridge oats are "in scope" of the regulation, which means they need to be scored using the "Nutrient Profile Model" score before being advertised.

The result is that porridge oats are not banned, but golden syrup instant porridge oats will be.

Here's the scoring model: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-nutrient-prof...

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by derriz »

manojlds wrote: post #23
jsheard wrote: post #5

Can we do gambling ads next? We banned tobacco ads and then seemingly forgot the lesson that it's actually bad to let advertisers shove addictive and self-destructive products in the publics face, including to former addicts at risk of relapse.

It's interesting that one of the tax free investment/savings choices in the UK is basically a lottery.

I'm pretty sure all gambling winnings are tax free in the UK?

Thank the power of the horse racing/gaming/gambling lobby.

Many years ago when I lived there, I had an IG Index account - who market themselves as a "financial spread betting" service. At the time, you could buy/sell futures and options with them but it was presented in a way that emphasized that you were "spread betting" - but the mechanics were the exact same and expiries all lined up with the obvious counterparts in the liquid futures space.

So because you were NOT investing but gambling, "winnings" were tax free.

I just googled and they're still going - presumably still offering the same betting "service".

It's funny to see the efforts that scam and pure gambling services go to to try and present themselves as staid and serious "investment" business while IG Index offered access to well-regulated financial markets but kept reminding you that you were betting.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by duiker101 »

manojlds wrote: post #23
jsheard wrote: post #5

Can we do gambling ads next? We banned tobacco ads and then seemingly forgot the lesson that it's actually bad to let advertisers shove addictive and self-destructive products in the publics face, including to former addicts at risk of relapse.

It's interesting that one of the tax free investment/savings choices in the UK is basically a lottery.

For those unaware, this comment is referring to premium bonds in the UK[1]. It is a very interesting system, I agree! But there are quite a few parts of the system that make it way more fair than a lottery.

Most obviously, it doesn't cost to enter. So the most you can "lose" is a missed interest income from putting the money in another source.

After that, it's definitely the fact that the algorithm is designed to both pay a certain percentage of people and always have specific return. [1]

You are also limited to how much you can enter to 50k.

With all that in mind, at the end of the day it feels like many small wins over time, with the super random chance of occasionally having a big-ish payout.

It's definitely designed to feel like a lottery, but in reality is way more akin to normal savings than a lottery.

[1] https://www.nsandi.com/products/premium-bonds

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