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Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Post by rhplus »

We’re three decades in with the web and it’s pretty clear that voluntary payment nudges don’t work. Most people won’t pay for free content after they’ve consumed it. Humans need an extra incentive to pay for free content.

This is why so many sponsorship platforms are effectively subscription models with additional exclusive content or early access. And for that to work, you need more than just a payment button, you need a content publishing platform that will handle all the subs and content gating.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Post by rpdillon »

dpkirchner wrote: post #36
jorvi wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s so funny how the Brave haters will constantly outright lie just to get their point. > Do Brave Ads replace ads on websites? What do Brave Ads look like? > No, Brave Ads do not replace the ads that the Brave Browser blocks on web pages (like banner ads). You can find a list of Brave’s ad formats here. > What do Brave Ads look like? > You can choose which ones you’d like to see: images on the new tab page, cards i…

From https://archive.is/W0k4j (an archive of a page on brave.com) > Step Two: Brave Replaces Ads We recognize that ads pay for most of our web content. Ads are not going away. So we replace the bad ads with Brave Ads, which we use to pay publishers and users. Maybe they don't replace ads now but they seem to have done it in the past. Or at least talked about doing it.

That page is eight years old; this is a very early iteration of the idea, if I recall correctly.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Post by interactivecode »

grues-dinner wrote: post #33

This is the one thing that I actually thought cryptocurrency would help - getting small adhoc payments out from under the bootheel of Mastercard and Visa, and especially for international transfers that cross between, say, the MC/Visa duopoly regions into other ones like the Asian ecosystems. But instead it's slow, inconsistent, inconvenient, balkanised, dripping with scams, criminals and bad actors and still involve…

Fully agree. We should just settle on a single internet currency thats fast, interoperable and not a market for speculation.

Hmm perhaps we don’t need more types of currency? Perhaps it’s better to push deep integration of modern banking changes like psd2, psd3 and others. Across the whole internet. So everyone can just do regular payments with their own bank in a safe and protected way, and hopefully with less intermediaries.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Post by cxr »

grues-dinner wrote: post #33

This is the one thing that I actually thought cryptocurrency would help - getting small adhoc payments out from under the bootheel of Mastercard and Visa, and especially for international transfers that cross between, say, the MC/Visa duopoly regions into other ones like the Asian ecosystems. But instead it's slow, inconsistent, inconvenient, balkanised, dripping with scams, criminals and bad actors and still involve…

Keybase's integration with XLM was pretty great. It's too bad the community revolted for reasons that amounted to a form of begging the question about the things you list here.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Post by kelvinjps10 »

quaintdev wrote: post #14

Browsers should have pay/tip button to support website owners. And browser vendors should handle the payment. This would limit ads and tracking as well which aligns with Mozilla goals. Can I pitch this idea to Mozilla somewhere?

But they don't have the infrastructure to reveive the payments internationally,(apple and google do) but there wouldn't be a conflict of interest for example google with their ads businesses and imagine apple charges 30% for every transaction like the do on the apple store

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Post by wkat4242 »

jasode wrote: post #19
elashri wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is sad reality. As an example, I wish Sabine Hossenfelder didn't have to leave academia. Her content (blog posts not videos) were one of the ways I kept up with development in theoretical physics. But now that she is a full time video content creator, she is under pressure to publish click bait and very questionable content. I understand that she is catering to the audience but this is one example why alignment…

>, I wish Sabine Hossenfelder didn't have to leave academia. [...] I understand that she is catering to the audience but this is one example why alignment of the incentives works. Before, she was earning her living as a working physicist so she did not have to cater to anyone actually But this obscures the fact that she was still "catering to the audience" when working in academia as a paid physicist. She was just pl…

Not all day jobs need to be crap of course. I enjoy mine and I like to produce some content on the side.

It's hard to get people to find it though due to the platforms all promoting professionals from which they earn more. But on the other hand I don't really care either.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Post by havnagiggle »

grues-dinner wrote: post #33

This is the one thing that I actually thought cryptocurrency would help - getting small adhoc payments out from under the bootheel of Mastercard and Visa, and especially for international transfers that cross between, say, the MC/Visa duopoly regions into other ones like the Asian ecosystems. But instead it's slow, inconsistent, inconvenient, balkanised, dripping with scams, criminals and bad actors and still involve…

There are options, however just saying anything is going to get you labeled as a shill heh. You're right that any new crypto is indistinguishable, but that is part of the risk in trying to outlast the rest. Some crypto that have survived should be worth more for hitting some of these milestones, but unfortunately that still isn't reflected in the top 10/20/100 because people are so desperate they throw cash at anything that moves.

The convenience of the scamming is partly why it _is_ a solution to this problem: people can transfer value as fast as they desire, and it works. There is also just a problem off on and off-boarding where you get hit by Visa/Mastercard level of fees. So is it really solving the problem at that point?

One area I would like to see is some kind of governed/regulated profit sharing. Basically giving your votes to content/production and this puts it on the books for some fraction of payment. You get X shares to distribute to content regularly. It would also be helpful if our government would provide support for independent producers where there's a clear trackable benefit (e.g. open source libraries that a ton of people rely on and a business can say "yes I need this, help them keep doing it").

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Post by carlosjobim »

jorvi wrote: post #28
carlosjobim wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they block legitimate ads on creator websites and then put their own ads in front and offer creators a cut. It's an outright racket and scam.

It’s so funny how the Brave haters will constantly outright lie just to get their point. > Do Brave Ads replace ads on websites? What do Brave Ads look like? > No, Brave Ads do not replace the ads that the Brave Browser blocks on web pages (like banner ads). You can find a list of Brave’s ad formats here. > What do Brave Ads look like? > You can choose which ones you’d like to see: images on the new tab page, cards i…

I don't hate Brave, but blocking legitimate ads and then putting in their own ads is a racket.

> Creators also don’t get “a” cut. Brave gives 70% of earnings on ads to users, and those can then decide how much they reward to the creators of whatever content they consume.

Ie, creators are offered a cut - in a roundabout way.

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