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How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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> I have money and I have a URL, how do I send money to the publisher of that URL? This question could easily be “I have money and I have a person’s name and address, how do I send money to them?” The only way to do this consistently would be to mail them physical cash, since there’s no way to consistently send money electronically across the world (and you’d have a currency conversion problem too - if someone mailed…

I think the (not clearly stated) intention is for an automated way to detect the pubisher's explicitly preferred method of compensation. Which is a sensible request, since it can allow a browser button/extension that sends you there with the click of a button, rather than having to search the page (or a video) for a mention of it.

Though in my experience, publishers and creators make it pretty easy to find that information, so the use of this tech would be very niche.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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post #13

Isn't this the problem Brave browser set out to solve? It's just that they did it with cryptocurrency so everyone shunned it. https://brave.com/brave-rewards/

No, they block legitimate ads on creator websites and then put their own ads in front and offer creators a cut. It's an outright racket and scam.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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I know this forum hates crypto but this is very doable with ENS. You can both point to content via an ENS domain and also link to a wallet address. https://ens.domains/ Come to think of it you can do this with normal DNS by just setting a wallet address in a TXT record but that's not integrated into anything. It's just text.

We don’t hate crypto, there are just a loud bunch that like to complain about other people using it. Lots of us are building and using daily.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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I don't see much of a point. If someone makes a website and wants people to be able to send money to them for that, a link on that website should work just fine. I'm failing to see the benefit of a HTML meta tag related to that.

> I wish I could click a button to easily send a "tip" to someone who created something I enjoy or to browse other options for supporting them.

I believe most people invested in getting donations already have a similar button on their page.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is sad reality. As an example, I wish Sabine Hossenfelder didn't have to leave academia. Her content (blog posts not videos) were one of the ways I kept up with development in theoretical physics. But now that she is a full time video content creator, she is under pressure to publish click bait and very questionable content. I understand that she is catering to the audience but this is one example why alignment…

>, I wish Sabine Hossenfelder didn't have to leave academia. [...] I understand that she is catering to the audience but this is one example why alignment of the incentives works. Before, she was earning her living as a working physicist so she did not have to cater to anyone actually But this obscures the fact that she was still "catering to the audience" when working in academia as a paid physicist. She was just pl…

Her personal motivations make total sense and this isn’t a judgment of her, but your comment makes it sound a little like misaligned incentives just switched places, but the misaligned research incentives remain (and she doesn’t do research professionally anymore) and now she introduced a new misalignment: the content creation business.

It’s totally fair that emotionally she was done with one and able better to continue work with the other, but removing the hobby element actually did remove one set of well aligned incentives and did not replace them with another.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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post #13

Isn't this the problem Brave browser set out to solve? It's just that they did it with cryptocurrency so everyone shunned it. https://brave.com/brave-rewards/

No, they block legitimate ads on creator websites and then put their own ads in front and offer creators a cut. It's an outright racket and scam.

It’s so funny how the Brave haters will constantly outright lie just to get their point.

> Do Brave Ads replace ads on websites? What do Brave Ads look like?

> No, Brave Ads do not replace the ads that the Brave Browser blocks on web pages (like banner ads). You can find a list of Brave’s ad formats here.

> What do Brave Ads look like?

> You can choose which ones you’d like to see: images on the new tab page, cards in your Brave News feed, push notifications, and others.

Creators also don’t get “a” cut. Brave gives 70% of earnings on ads to users, and those can then decide how much they reward to the creators of whatever content they consume.

BAT being crypto is also nice because it automatically means you can just buy BAT directly and support sites without having to see a single ad or cumbersomely figure out how to somehow donate to each site/creator directly.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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Worst part about such small payments is that intermediary, that will process the payment, might get 50% or even more of said payment, leaving not much to receiver. If someone really wants support, they will either have a link to "merch" store, or links to Patreon, Kofi or some other platform. Worth noting, that content creators usually seek recurring payments, not a single tip.

Re: How do I pay the publisher of a web page?

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post #19
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is sad reality. As an example, I wish Sabine Hossenfelder didn't have to leave academia. Her content (blog posts not videos) were one of the ways I kept up with development in theoretical physics. But now that she is a full time video content creator, she is under pressure to publish click bait and very questionable content. I understand that she is catering to the audience but this is one example why alignment…

>, I wish Sabine Hossenfelder didn't have to leave academia. [...] I understand that she is catering to the audience but this is one example why alignment of the incentives works. Before, she was earning her living as a working physicist so she did not have to cater to anyone actually But this obscures the fact that she was still "catering to the audience" when working in academia as a paid physicist. She was just pl…

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