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Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#101
I was just helping someone with this. Attackers captured the account at night time his hours, and updated all of the recovery contacts to their own. The account recovery process is deliberately secretive to prevent attacking the protocol.

Eventually you get escalated to a team that reviews your govt ID. have you hit that point yet?

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6294825?

Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#102
For others in the thread: it's a good time to run Google Takeout (every 6 months) and copy your content to your own drive. Google Takeout now supports other clouds

Review your security and recovery settings. Hackers are very aggressive right now.

  1. third party apps
  2. 2fa activation
  3. family member settings
  4. recovery email & phone contacts

Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#104
Exactly this is why I moved away from Google and never use it for anything important.

When they started requiring verification from old phone it was too much. What if I lost it, it got stolen etc. Also have to account for them changing their verification requirements as they wish.

Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#105
post #54

Moving forward: always have an email client on a local machine downloading a copy of all emails. Have a local copy of all gdrive contents. Backup your password mangers to a txt file and encrypt it on a drive. And above all, dont trust google with all your stuff. They dont care. I lost a gmail years ago and only use it as a throwaway email client now. You get what you pay for.

At the very least the average person can simply download all of their google data every year or so to soften the blow considerably. something that's actually super easy to do. https://takeout.google.com/

Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#106
post #2

The same thing happened to me in 2016 — I gave up and started a new account.

> I gave up and started a new account. Some people never learn?

What would have been the lesson to learn in this case? What is a good solution?

I solved it by completely moving away from Google and services where I'm offered little control over verification settings. I remember I found the related settings in Google too restrictive at the time, and they seem to change requirements over time, thus making it too unpredictable for me. The "verify on old phone" really scared me away.

Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#107
post #9

Not intending to shame OP, but in 2024 with stories like this occurring regularly, I am totally baffled why anyone still trusts Google with anything important. Make the switch! Run, don’t walk. Do it today. Google is the Scorpion in the parable of the frog and the scorpion - it cannot help its nature. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog

Which service do you recommend as alternative?

postale.io

Requires your own domain.

Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#108
Have tried recovery dozens of "times through g.co/recover"I don't quite understand your statement. The device can be lost, but you can always make a copy of the SIM cards. You may be referring to the fact that you gave or had your phone number cancelled.

Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#109
post #89

Why don't you just contact someone at Google? I would recommend starting an Advertising Campaign and not paying it. You will be surprised how quickly a support number with a real human being at the end appears.

how do you do that if your are locked out of your account?

Re: Tell HN: Need help, locked out of Google account with 10 years of personal data

#110
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No reason to be embarrassed. You put your faith in one of the largest companies that has ever existed. That is a logical thing to do.

It's not, considering the scale. The projected image of reliability and trustworthiness can't be than more of a facade, with only 'some' humans shepherding an endless army of 'zalgorithms on crack' . If any of their spasms is hitting YOU for whichever reason, you're usually out of luck if the expectation is normal, casual means of interaction/recovery. For me that began with the necessity of providing a SMS-capable m…

To add some specifics to the perceived stupidity:

After being locked out, given that box with options to restore.

Trying several, won't work. All leads to phone number, and not that obvious it has to be mobile, and SMS-capable.

Giving them the POTS/Landline, because even Amazon manages to give instant call-back on that. (In the middle of the night, very early morning even!)

Error like: 'This number has been tried too often.' WTF? That was the first time ever!

NOT this is no mobile-number, try that! Why do they even let me enter that, then? Why do they insist on SMS, while some voicerobot could sing some f...... code to me on that landline, which I could enter into some form?

Why can't I switch OFF all of that hypersensitive security crap in account settings, because I know it's suspicious, sometimes not logging in for weeks, or even months, without any former cookies, on different devices, from locactions far away, in different timezones, physically, while using VPNs, too?

Do I have to say daily where I am, like a good android-sheepl? Do I have to upload a whitelist of devices with identifiers in advance? Can I authenticate with the imprint of my glans penis on the sensor, then?

  GO TRACK YOURSELF!
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