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OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' clause with Microsoft

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> “We’ve also said that our intention is to treat AGI as a mile marker along the way. We’ve left ourselves some flexibility because we don’t know what will happen,” added Altman

Musk accusing Altman of “deceit of Shakespearean proportions.”

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> “We’ve also said that our intention is to treat AGI as a mile marker along the way. We’ve left ourselves some flexibility because we don’t know what will happen,” added Altman Musk accusing Altman of “deceit of Shakespearean proportions.”

I’ve had AI influencers reaching out to inquire about the bridge I have for sale, everyday for the past 2 years.

We’ll never see AGI in its original definition in our lifetimes. It doesn’t take being a rocket…company buying billionaire.

Re: OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' clause with Microsoft

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> As per the current terms, when OpenAI creates AGI - defined as a "highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work" - Microsoft's access to such a technology would be void.

That’s their definition of AGI? What does that have to do with actual intelligence?

Re: OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' clause with Microsoft

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> As per the current terms, when OpenAI creates AGI - defined as a "highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work" - Microsoft's access to such a technology would be void. That’s their definition of AGI? What does that have to do with actual intelligence?

It’s the so called “economic” definition. You’re absolutely right to call out that it’s not very philosophically valuable, but they were trying to be pragmatic — and it was kinda hard to imagine, anyway.

Of course it’s being thrown out the window now that money’s on the line… drives one to cynicism! No wonder Altman is a paranoid prepper.

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> “We’ve also said that our intention is to treat AGI as a mile marker along the way. We’ve left ourselves some flexibility because we don’t know what will happen,” added Altman Musk accusing Altman of “deceit of Shakespearean proportions.”

I’ve had AI influencers reaching out to inquire about the bridge I have for sale, everyday for the past 2 years. We’ll never see AGI in its original definition in our lifetimes. It doesn’t take being a rocket…company buying billionaire.

He started the company - I’m no Elon fan myself, but that’s the case. Also, you’re disagreeing with him anyway; he’s saying that starting a company who’s defining purpose was to avoid a for-profit race to AGI and then immediately pivot to ruthless for-profit competition as soon as you have a real shot at your goal (+ an advantage) is deceptive.

And yeah, I’ve gotta give it to him: tragic. Tho I guess that’s “Homeric” or “Hellenic” deceit?

Re: OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' clause with Microsoft

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> As per the current terms, when OpenAI creates AGI - defined as a "highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work" - Microsoft's access to such a technology would be void. That’s their definition of AGI? What does that have to do with actual intelligence?

> "highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work"

As you note, this has nothing to do with actual intelligence, but with the for-profit calculus.

The disturbing aspect of such a definition is that economically-valuable work/activity may be grossly unsustainable and directly detrimental.

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> “We’ve also said that our intention is to treat AGI as a mile marker along the way. We’ve left ourselves some flexibility because we don’t know what will happen,” added Altman Musk accusing Altman of “deceit of Shakespearean proportions.”

I’ve had AI influencers reaching out to inquire about the bridge I have for sale, everyday for the past 2 years. We’ll never see AGI in its original definition in our lifetimes. It doesn’t take being a rocket…company buying billionaire.

I wouldn't be comfortable saying we'll never see AGI in our lifetimes. I've seen incredible progress since I was a kiddo and computers were these huge machines that took up an entire desk, not to mention that only a decade prior to that, they were machines that took up entire warehouses. And now, I carry around a computer who's primary function is organizing my life and helping me kill time, and it has hundreds of times more power stuffed into a little rectangle that runs the entire day in my pocket. I wouldn't say it's impossible by any stretch.

That said, I think it strains the hell out of credulity to say a fancy chatbot is getting anywhere close to that, especially since we apparently had to give it every word mankind has written up to this point just to get it to a stage of "mostly good at grammar, still makes tons of shit up." I just don't think this is the route there.

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