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An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

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Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

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post #10

I’m reasonably certain that I interviewed someone using this or something like it in the last few days. Lots of eye scanning while looking above the window they’d been typing into. Pauses. Big pastes. One of my excellent colleagues noticed that the candidate made use of exciting C++ casts before ever defining the variable’s types. Complete inability to explain or debug the code just written. So. Frustrating in two di…

> made use of exciting C++ casts before ever defining the variable’s types

an example of this, please?

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like you want sympathy but it just shows that some people just don't understand the power dynamics of an interview. I believe live coding is a scourge and we should get rid of it altogether. Get a tiny open ended project, which requires more design/architecture skills than actually finishing the solution. You do it at your own time and shouldn't take more than 1-2h. You submit it and provide your mental pro…

The core issue here is the sheer volume of applicants. Microsoft opened 30 new-grad software engineering positions. Care to guess how many applications they got within 24 hours? 1,000? 10,000? Nope. 100,000 applications. In under a single day. With that kind of applicant pool, I’m honestly not sure what the best approach is—even though, in a perfect world, your suggestion would be the more appropriate route. The real…

I think at that point it's a lottery anyway, pick 50 truly randomly and try those?

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

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post #10

I’m reasonably certain that I interviewed someone using this or something like it in the last few days. Lots of eye scanning while looking above the window they’d been typing into. Pauses. Big pastes. One of my excellent colleagues noticed that the candidate made use of exciting C++ casts before ever defining the variable’s types. Complete inability to explain or debug the code just written. So. Frustrating in two di…

> Lots of eye scanning while looking above the window they’d been typing into.

Are you expecting people to not reference external material, such as documentation or syntax, and only code from memory?

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

#44
> Never fail an online technical interview again

All these online assessment solutions such as leetcode, hackerrank, etc are essentially close to useless given all these AI based cheaters and LLM products being used by candidates.

On-site interviews it is then, and this time you cannot use those LLMs to save you.

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

#45

I don't get why companies waste time with this sort of interview that just turns into this stupid cat and mouse game. Even ignoring this sort of software, someone cramming leet code exercises is the same thing in my view (they won't remember or use in their work 99% of that stuff). Just talk to the person, talk about the sorts of problems you expect them to solve. Can they understand the problem? Do they have ideas o…

I think it's worthwhile doing simple coding tests to check that the interviewee can actually code. It seems crazy but I've interviewed plenty of people that couldn't write a simple for loop.

I agree asking difficult leetcode questions is less useful because it depends so much on whether people have practiced (or now whether they cheat with AI). Often these questions are so difficult there's no way you could come up with a solution in an interview situation if you hadn't already seen it.

Getting rid of all coding interviews is stupid though. Other industries would kill to have such an easy to test skill! We shouldn't throw away such a nice thing just because some people take it too far.

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

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post #16

Why bother with this style of interview where the candidate is under extreme time pressure and isn’t allowed to use any of the research tools they would normally use in their job? What is this controlling for? It barely made sense when these were conducted in person, and it’s completely inane over video meeting. Instead of grilling people, talk to them. Give them meaningful take-home exercises that you can discuss to…

I agree but a big problem remains. How do you make it scale for 100k applications?

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

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I don't get why companies waste time with this sort of interview that just turns into this stupid cat and mouse game. Even ignoring this sort of software, someone cramming leet code exercises is the same thing in my view (they won't remember or use in their work 99% of that stuff). Just talk to the person, talk about the sorts of problems you expect them to solve. Can they understand the problem? Do they have ideas o…

I think it's worthwhile doing simple coding tests to check that the interviewee can actually code. It seems crazy but I've interviewed plenty of people that couldn't write a simple for loop. I agree asking difficult leetcode questions is less useful because it depends so much on whether people have practiced (or now whether they cheat with AI). Often these questions are so difficult there's no way you could come up w…

There are people who can talk their way out of trouble for sure. That is why I suggested the take home exercise followed by a discussion.

It's only when there's niche knowledge involved that I think it isn't necessary, because you won't be able to answer any hard questions properly without having actually worked on code for that niche at one point or another.

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

#48
post #5

So cheat to get a job then get fired when they see you are useless? Genius..

Technical interviews are useless and its normal that their victims fight back

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"Victims"

This just makes it much worse for the industry that is already weeding out frauds or those that claim / lie about their achievements without backing them up when asked very technical tests.

I would say the online technical interview solutions like leetcode, hackerrank, etc are losing their worth given they can be easily cheated but you are just cheating yourself in the on-site interview.

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's worthwhile doing simple coding tests to check that the interviewee can actually code. It seems crazy but I've interviewed plenty of people that couldn't write a simple for loop. I agree asking difficult leetcode questions is less useful because it depends so much on whether people have practiced (or now whether they cheat with AI). Often these questions are so difficult there's no way you could come up w…

There are people who can talk their way out of trouble for sure. That is why I suggested the take home exercise followed by a discussion. It's only when there's niche knowledge involved that I think it isn't necessary, because you won't be able to answer any hard questions properly without having actually worked on code for that niche at one point or another.

Most applicants fake the take home problem or have someone else or ai do it for them.

You have to watch someone produce a compiling for loop to prove they’ve ever built software before. Fraud is rampant.

Re: An invisible desktop application that will help you pass technical interviews

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How often do doctors have to prove they can still recall every obscure medical fact when changing hospitals? When a lawyer moves to a new firm, do they have to retake the bar or answer weird hypothetical cases all over again? Aren't their credentials, past cases, and reputation usually enough? Why do we in tech keep forcing experienced professionals to jump through these puzzle-like hoops instead of trusting their track record?
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