Cool feature: The Rivian R1T and R1S are equipped with a "Tank Turn" feature, allowing the vehicle to rotate 360 degrees in place by spinning the left and right wheels in opposite directions.
That’s hell on the tires if they are fixed axle isn’t it?
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#82Cool feature: The Rivian R1T and R1S are equipped with a "Tank Turn" feature, allowing the vehicle to rotate 360 degrees in place by spinning the left and right wheels in opposite directions.
Very neat! I bet it isn't good for the tires though haha.
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Apparently that's the recommended way from Tesla to do it, per that thread. Do they not make extension cords you can use with the charger cables so you charge from other angles?
No, they don’t. Extension cables for something that is dumping 250kW would be dangerous, or outrageously expensive and bulky.
https://insideevs.com/news/742106/tesla-supercharger-longer-...
https://electrek.co/2024/11/27/tesla-adds-longer-cables-and-...
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And adapters for the other standard are <$200, and don't take up that much space in a trunk.
In the event I'm ever truly stranded, I do have a Level 1 charger I keep in my car so that all I need is a 110v outlet. Since my car (EV6) supports V2L and has an internal 110v outlet, I could also use it to help another stranded EV. Not fast, but it is a lifeline.
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#85I applaud the effort to expand charging across the nation as this will inevitably increase the comfort level of the average joe on the fence with range anxiety. The elephant in the room that nobody is talking about is the connector. There are SEVEN different competing charging connector types in North America. if i dont have an adapter, im either screwed into spending 3 hours at a charging station or im calling a tow…
In practice there are only three: NACS (currently only at Tesla stations); CCS (everywhere that isn't Tesla), and J1772 (destination charging). NACS is the industry consensus on the one true North American plug to rule them all going forward. CHAdeMO is completely dead -- you'll sometimes see them, but they're being kept on life support if not outright decommissioned.
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#86Has anyone does a trade-in value for these EVs? The depreciation of these EV vehicles are crazy...
There’s still so much fear on how long the battery will hold up, however all statistics are pointing at > 80% capacity for 10 years old / 200,000 miles.
Expectations for replacement costs in 2026-2027 are around $40/kWh, which will be around $3000 for replacing the typical Tesla battery.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
In practice there are only three: NACS (currently only at Tesla stations); CCS (everywhere that isn't Tesla), and J1772 (destination charging). NACS is the industry consensus on the one true North American plug to rule them all going forward. CHAdeMO is completely dead -- you'll sometimes see them, but they're being kept on life support if not outright decommissioned.
In practical terms, CCS and J1772 are the same standard, in the sense that 2 prong and 3 prong US power plugs are the same standard, since receiving plugs support both. I do still see CHAdeMO at a lot of EA and EVgo stations (I usually charge at home, so my charging station experience is mostly limited to road trips)
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#88How did we get from a situation where you could just pay with cash/card for fuel to having monopolized single-brand car fueling stations?
When it started taking 30 minutes to "fill up" your car. High speed chargers can cost >$200k installed. A gas pump costs about $25k installed. If the average person spends 4 minutes at a pump, that comes out to: The time value of a slot at a super charger can be >$5 for each charge. The time value of a slot at a gas pump is ~$0.07 per fill up. The economics of a charging business are awful. High CapEx, few cars, not…
If Tesla bills customers 20 cents per kWh above market electricity rates, they'll make back the cost of the plug after 205,000kWh. A typical EV has a 70-100kWh battery, so that's 2,000-3,000 full charges. If it takes an hour to fully charge a car, then each plug will be profitable after 2-4 months assuming a 100% duty cycle. Actual duty cycles are much lower. If we assume the charger is active 15% of the time, then it will be profitable after 18-30 months. Again, these are all rather pessimistic estimates. Actual markups and duty cycles are higher, and actual charging times are shorter. If we assume a 20% duty cycle, 45 minute charging time, and a 30 cent per kWh markup, it only takes 8-10 months to become profitable. I didn't include maintenance costs, but those are much lower than gas stations because charging stations require no full time staff.
1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2022/04/14/teslas...
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
In practice there are only three: NACS (currently only at Tesla stations); CCS (everywhere that isn't Tesla), and J1772 (destination charging). NACS is the industry consensus on the one true North American plug to rule them all going forward. CHAdeMO is completely dead -- you'll sometimes see them, but they're being kept on life support if not outright decommissioned.
There are still in the neighborhood of 190,000 Leafs in the U.S.
(Which makes it absolute lunacy that Nissan is still selling the Leaf)