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Re: ChatGPT Pro

#861

Struggling to reconcile this is cool with what about the insane energy/water costs. Are we supposed to stick our heads in the sand? Hope it will magically go away?

Best is to go into the woods and live with bees.

Yes, because the world is just binary like that. You can only choose on or the other... /s

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#862

As I said before. OpenAI cannot maintain profitability unless they can increase the pricing an order of magnitude. Adding a $200 pro plan is only the first step. Expect they will also have $2k and 20$k per month plans soon and your "normal" $20 plan will curiously be worse and worse every month

Are they profitable?

Dunno, does VC money being thrown at you in the billions count as profit?

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#863

Let’s see if those folks saying they’ve doubled their productivity will pay.

From what I have seen a lot of people who make these claims seem to be people who are working at a level where there is a lot of text being produced that nobody actually cares to read.

That, or I am actually a much better developer and writer than I thought. Because while LLMs certainly have become useful tools to me. They have not doubled my productivity.

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#864

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

Yes, but how can this strategy work, and who would choose ChatGPT at this point, when there are so many alternatives, some better (Anthropic), some just as good but way cheaper (Amazon Nova) and some excellent and open-source?

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#865

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

> Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards Interesting! I intentionally edit my keyboard layout to include the em-dash, as I enjoy using it out of sheer pomposity—I should undoubtedly delve into the extent to which my own comments have been used to train GPT models!

On Windows em dash is ALT+0151; the paragraph mark (§) is ALT+0167. Once you know them (and a couple of others, for instance accented capitals) they become second nature, and work on all keyboards, everywhere.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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You just hit the chatGPT api for every row of data. Obviously. (Only 70% joking.)

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Glean are already well established in that space.

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#867

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

I've been concatenating my source code of ~3300 lines and 123979 bytes(so likely < 128K context window) into the chat to get better answers. Uploading files is hopeless in the web interface.

why not use aider/similar and upload via API?

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#868

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Leadership at this crop of tech companies is more like followership . Whether it's 'no politics', or sudden layoffs, or 'founder mode', or 'work from home'... one CEO has an idea and three dozen other CEOs unthinkingly adopt it. Several comments in this thread have used Anthropic's lower pricing as a criticism, but it's probably moot: a month from now Anthropic will release its own $200 model.

Except Anthropic actually has the ability to deliver $200/month in value whereas OpenAI lost the script a long time ago. Not a single one of OpenAI’s models can compete with the Claude series, it’s embarrassing.

> Not a single one of OpenAI’s models can compete with the Claude series, it’s embarrassing.

Do you happen to have comparisons available for o1-pro or even o1 (non-preview) that you could share since you seems to have tried them all?

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#869
Even the gap between the $200 model and the $20 model is tiny. It’s just designed to position the company based on pricing (it must be useful if they are charging this much for it) rather than reality (the new model cannot operate at 20-30% of a very competent human).

I think this is proof that Open AI have nothing at all and AGI is as far away as fusion and self driving cars on London roads.

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#870

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I haven't used ChatGPT in a few weeks now. I still maintain subscriptions to both ChatGPT and Claude, but I'm very close to dropping ChatGPT entirely. The only useful thing it provides over Claude is a decent mobile voice mode and web search.

If you don't want to necessarily have to pick between one or the other, there are services like this one that let you basically access all the major LLMs and only pay per use: https://nano-gpt.com/

Does it have Claude's artifact feature
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