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Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

morsch wrote: post #114

I agree it looks nice, but dressing up an airport in sustainable materials won't materially change the fact that a flight Boston - NYC (one-way!) blasts through ~0.7t[1] of CO2eq of your yearly budget of 1-3t[2]. It won't change the fact, but I'm sure it'll make it easier to forget or ignore. [1] https://co2.myclimate.org/en/portfolios?calculation_id=75775... [2] e.g. https://ieep.eu/publications/carbon-inequality-in…

Not to mention, besides the wood material being, well, wood... it's a relatively small amount when you think about it, and the amount of processing involved which basically turn it into a different material altogether outweighs any sustainability. Plus, with all the glues / epoxies / whatever they use, that wood-based material isn't going to be degradable at all. It puts me in mind of "bamboo" products, which also relies on a lot of glues and processing to make it a wood analog.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Post by amelius »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #121
morsch wrote: post #114

I agree it looks nice, but dressing up an airport in sustainable materials won't materially change the fact that a flight Boston - NYC (one-way!) blasts through ~0.7t[1] of CO2eq of your yearly budget of 1-3t[2]. It won't change the fact, but I'm sure it'll make it easier to forget or ignore. [1] https://co2.myclimate.org/en/portfolios?calculation_id=75775... [2] e.g. https://ieep.eu/publications/carbon-inequality-in…

Not to mention, besides the wood material being, well, wood... it's a relatively small amount when you think about it, and the amount of processing involved which basically turn it into a different material altogether outweighs any sustainability. Plus, with all the glues / epoxies / whatever they use, that wood-based material isn't going to be degradable at all. It puts me in mind of "bamboo" products, which also re…

Well the fact that it doesn't degrade means the carbon stays trapped.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Post by dig1 »

morsch wrote: post #114

I agree it looks nice, but dressing up an airport in sustainable materials won't materially change the fact that a flight Boston - NYC (one-way!) blasts through ~0.7t[1] of CO2eq of your yearly budget of 1-3t[2]. It won't change the fact, but I'm sure it'll make it easier to forget or ignore. [1] https://co2.myclimate.org/en/portfolios?calculation_id=75775... [2] e.g. https://ieep.eu/publications/carbon-inequality-in…

Sadly, it's true. In my opinion, this is the hypocrisy of the modern 'green' agenda - we endlessly discuss pollution, yet we cling to the comforts of modern life, many of which cause even greater harm.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Post by Perz1val »

morsch wrote: post #114

I agree it looks nice, but dressing up an airport in sustainable materials won't materially change the fact that a flight Boston - NYC (one-way!) blasts through ~0.7t[1] of CO2eq of your yearly budget of 1-3t[2]. It won't change the fact, but I'm sure it'll make it easier to forget or ignore. [1] https://co2.myclimate.org/en/portfolios?calculation_id=75775... [2] e.g. https://ieep.eu/publications/carbon-inequality-in…

The carbon emission is not a problem, the imbalance is. When we burn fossil fuels, we use carbon that was stored by dead plants being buried. We take carbon from the ground and dump it in the atmosphere. Plants take carbon from the atmosphere. If were to bury the equivalent amount of wood, we would be equal. Buried wood is not useful, but building from it also locks the carbon somewhere else that isn't an atmosphere. So... there actually is a finite number of wooden airports that completely offsets airplane carbon emissions.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

morsch wrote: post #114

I agree it looks nice, but dressing up an airport in sustainable materials won't materially change the fact that a flight Boston - NYC (one-way!) blasts through ~0.7t[1] of CO2eq of your yearly budget of 1-3t[2]. It won't change the fact, but I'm sure it'll make it easier to forget or ignore. [1] https://co2.myclimate.org/en/portfolios?calculation_id=75775... [2] e.g. https://ieep.eu/publications/carbon-inequality-in…

It is however looking much nicer. For that reason alone I would love to see more projects like this.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Post by TulliusCicero »

dig1 wrote: post #123
morsch wrote: post #114

I agree it looks nice, but dressing up an airport in sustainable materials won't materially change the fact that a flight Boston - NYC (one-way!) blasts through ~0.7t[1] of CO2eq of your yearly budget of 1-3t[2]. It won't change the fact, but I'm sure it'll make it easier to forget or ignore. [1] https://co2.myclimate.org/en/portfolios?calculation_id=75775... [2] e.g. https://ieep.eu/publications/carbon-inequality-in…

Sadly, it's true. In my opinion, this is the hypocrisy of the modern 'green' agenda - we endlessly discuss pollution, yet we cling to the comforts of modern life, many of which cause even greater harm.

Personally I'd love to take more trains instead of planes, and bike more instead of driving, but the system (at least in the US) just isn't set up for that.

Train travel is expensive and sparse and slow, biking most places is uncomfortable and unsafe due to crappy infrastructure.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Post by refurb »

sexy_seedbox wrote: post #112
Der_Einzige wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the smaller size and fact that you can smoke weed, it's better

Death penalty if done in Singapore. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland_with_the_Death_Pe...

Not for smoking. Only for smuggling a shockingly low amount of 0.5 kg. Locals don’t get too upset when poor foreigners get executed.

If you’re caught smoking (citizens can be tested at the airport and a positive result is a possession charge) you’ll likely have to serve a 3-6 month detention at a drug treatment facility and so drug tests for the next 2-3 years.

If clean, you’ll be stuck with a criminal record for the rest of your life which will significantly minimize your career options.

If busted again using, you’ll get repeated higher and higher prison terms measured in years.

Re: Portland airport grows with expansive mass timber roof canopy

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Post by TulliusCicero »

dataengineer56 wrote: post #127

Does Portland airport have the same issues with homeless people as other major US airports?

Tons of US cities have issues with large homeless populations, but it being a problem for airports too is news to me.
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