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65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

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Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

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When I was at MS, I wrote a detailed guide how to trick the central IT system into thinking that your machine had the antivirus software running when it did not. It eventually, years later, got forwarded back to me as some sort of underground currency (with my authorship removed).

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

#12
It is always: security = 1/convenience

And there are lots of confounding factors.

Staying up-to-date with security updates might also mean you get breaking updates, or updates that have counterproductive changes, or downgrade your capabilities or privacy. and why do updates take so long to apply?

also password re-use? sso can fix this. (but if you have to automate things, companies have a varied track record on credentials)

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

#13
I’m amazed how we have widely available biometrics in the consumer space (anything Apple with TouchID or FaceID) but not in the realm of business where security is far more critical.

A rational market observer would have assumed biometrics would have replaced antiquated passwords years ago.

Feels like this is a solved problem but Microsoft having a monopoly over business computing and software and there being no agreed upon standards for biometrics hardware is holding us back.

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

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I’m amazed how we have widely available biometrics in the consumer space (anything Apple with TouchID or FaceID) but not in the realm of business where security is far more critical. A rational market observer would have assumed biometrics would have replaced antiquated passwords years ago. Feels like this is a solved problem but Microsoft having a monopoly over business computing and software and there being no agre…

You still need to create a password. And since nearly always the biometric option doesn’t replace the password, it’s a moot point.

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

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I’m amazed how we have widely available biometrics in the consumer space (anything Apple with TouchID or FaceID) but not in the realm of business where security is far more critical. A rational market observer would have assumed biometrics would have replaced antiquated passwords years ago. Feels like this is a solved problem but Microsoft having a monopoly over business computing and software and there being no agre…

Windows Hello exists. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/identity-...

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

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I’m amazed how we have widely available biometrics in the consumer space (anything Apple with TouchID or FaceID) but not in the realm of business where security is far more critical. A rational market observer would have assumed biometrics would have replaced antiquated passwords years ago. Feels like this is a solved problem but Microsoft having a monopoly over business computing and software and there being no agre…

> A rational market observer would have assumed biometrics would have replaced antiquated passwords years ago.

Some people prefer that their passwords not be public information.

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

#17
I don't understand why most password manager software that's being used in Enterprise and even targets that market specifically does not have the most basic features that people need.

Sharing passwords to external company accounts is essential for a marketing department, for example. Yet the proposed solution is to use an Android device for that. Good luck recovering that after an attack.

Password policies in Microsoft ADS systems are so broken that they have to change their password every 3 months for no reason whatsoever, effectively making all passwords predictable because the chance of someone using or as a password suffix is guaranteed.

Let alone the old messed up SAP systems everywhere that are abused as a login database. SAP doesn't even support special characters, and the max password length is 9 characters (10 if you count the # that is used as a hack to implement MFA). They are so crappy that the password always is set by an external rented plugin that updates all passwords in an interval with password#token. And yes, this also kind of nullifies the token's initial purpose as a secondary system.

Then there's stupid policies that logout a session every 5 minutes, while people need to use a program for hours on end. While also having a single button to relogin in an external window, in a program that is made in 90s Perl or Java.

And then you are wondering why employees reuse passwords if the state of systems is _that_ close to being pwned? Really?

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

#18
My biggest pet peeve is when the platform forces me to add certain special characters to my password, then I need to write down my altered password and put it on a post-it note on my desk to remember it.

My other pet peeve, with a password manager, is when I forgot my master password and I need to reset it, but then my password manager sends the reset link to my email inbox; which I cannot access since its password is itself inside my password manager (true story).

Thankfully, in that second case, I eventually managed to guess my email's password. I couldn't guess my master password because it required too many weird characters which I couldn't recall. Good thing I didn't let the password manager generate the password for me!

It reminds me of another topic regarding how most software tends to assume that you are a billionaire and everyone is trying to hack you or spam you... Also, like how Gmail hides my newly received emails underneath some weird accordion menu as if my inbox is so full of emails that I couldn't see all of this month's emails in a single view.

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

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post #4

This skipped the main reason employees do this: The cybersecurity measures are widely perceived as "security theater", rather than anything that actually enhances security. Logging me out of an application, where a re-login requires nothing more than a click, is a stupid thing to do. Blocking outgoing (not incoming) ssh is silly when I have outgoing http. Requiring MFA multiple times a day on a work computer that is…

Mostly corporate security is about ass coverage, not about prevention of problems. Though that can be a useful side effect. Ass coverage is about legal liability. If something bad happens, can I wash my hands in innocence and not suffer consequences (financial, legal, etc.)? If "no", take measures until you can because this could get very expensive.

Then the next question is "whose ass". Answer: literally anyone: service providers, your head of IT (who might get fired), your head of sales (who might have to explain to customer lawyers why their data leaked), the CEO, etc. They don't want to be on the spot for your mistakes. For public companies this is worse because now you have publicly traded shares in a very litigious environment with people looking for weaknesses that can be exploited to squeeze money out of any situation. And of course some of the tools in this space are made by publicly traded companies too.

The easiest way to deal with security is applying a shotgun approach of applying any kind of stuff that is vaguely understood to maybe work. The actual effectiveness of these things is besides the point and of course much of it is snake oil. The point is that there are policies and they are being enforced. The more visible and annoying this is, the more effective it is in case of trouble as a means to say "well it wasn't my fault because we did X, Y, and Z".

And of course a secondary effect of putting people on the job of securing a thing is that they will get busy doing their job to justify their existence. Which usually means a whole bunch of policy documents get written, tools get selected (preferably ones with big shiny reputations), and a lot of complexity gets introduced. There will be audits, consultants being consulted, chins being stroked, and a lot of money changing hands all for the assertion that "your ass is covered!" and by extension "theirs" as well. There are whole meta levels of ass coverage here.

That's why security theater is a thing. Because there is a large audience of people that all need to be re-assured about having suitable amounts of ass coverage.

Re: 65% of employees bypass cybersecurity measures, new study finds

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post #7

> Password Reuse: 49% of respondents use the same login credentials for multiple work applications, and 36% use the same credentials for personal and professional accounts. If your company has multiple things you need to log in to, its doing something wrong. Having company-wide single login system is really critical for good security. > 30% of employees share their workplace passwords with colleagues, effectively nul…

> If your company has multiple things you need to log in to, its doing something wrong. How does that work for privileged accounts?

Kind of like sudo. Your individual identity is allowed to assume the privileged identity after providing an additional factor/justification (and your access has a TTL).
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