Live data from Hacker News

Why did clothing become boring?

resobscura.substack.com

111–120 of 142 posts

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#111
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it's interesting, your phrasing in this comment thread comes off very serious and sincere with little if any hint of sarcasm. Maybe throw a "lol" in there somewhere so the rest of us can get a hint.

[flagged]

This is just Poe's law in action, no need to be smug about it

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're just playing word games. Fashion means what's popular/trending and `utility` means the exact opposite.

> Fashion means what's popular/trending and `utility` means the exact opposite. Does it? Never heard that one before. I see a lot of people wearing fashion that isn't currently popular or trending, and a lot of utilitarian fashion (look up "techwear") I suppose I probably won't convince you otherwise, it seems very important to your belief system that utilitarian fashion choices not be considered fashion choices beca…

I think Websters Dictionary can solve this for you, if you're still confused. You can compare both utility v.s. fashion and see who's right if you want. In the context we're using these words they're the exact opposite.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#113
post #93
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am so surprised everybody calls them out of style. Youth around here (German speaking countries) just throws them over the shoulder. This slowly creeped from 'dealer on the corner look' to the default norm.

Fashions in everything. At one point I wanted a new fanny pack for some reason and you just couldn't find them. Then they became more common again. I have a friend who loves her pickleball carrier for carrying odds and ends around.

In Texas most fanny packs are for guns, I bet. I wear my gun cowboy-style in a holster, but most women don't want to do that.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fashion means what's popular/trending and `utility` means the exact opposite. Does it? Never heard that one before. I see a lot of people wearing fashion that isn't currently popular or trending, and a lot of utilitarian fashion (look up "techwear") I suppose I probably won't convince you otherwise, it seems very important to your belief system that utilitarian fashion choices not be considered fashion choices beca…

I think Websters Dictionary can solve this for you, if you're still confused. You can compare both utility v.s. fashion and see who's right if you want. In the context we're using these words they're the exact opposite.

Are you sure you replied to the right post? Your reply doesn't seem to address either of the two points in the post to which you replied.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#116
post #20

I think there are a couple of important things missing from this article. One is that until relatively recently clothing served a very different function to that of today. In Europe, in our grandparents’ or even parents’ childhoods - as late even as the 1970s - housing and transport was very different to how it is now. Clothing was largely purpose-specific; people had far fewer clothes than today but those clothes ha…

Well you can make the case that people don't have to dress a certain way because we are much better insulated (metaphorically and literally) from the environment. And there are of course no sumptuary laws. So clothing can be more fun, if people want to of course - look at how music subcultures have incredibly varied ways of expression through clothing - metalheads, hiphopheads, punks etc.

>look at how music subcultures have incredibly varied ways of expression through clothing - metalheads, hiphopheads, punks etc.

Metalheads? Huh? I like metal, but metal fans are some of the most boring dressers I've ever seen. Go to any metal show and you'll just see a bunch of guys wearing jeans and black T-shirts from their favorite bands' prior concert tours. Some of the musicians used to dress pretty flamboyantly back in the hair-metal days of the 1980s, but those days are long past; the musicians these days are in their 60s and dress rather casually and plainly.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems important to you that others understand you are strictly utilitarian, that you're not like the others that busy themselves with frivolities like jewelry and designer sneakers. You dress yourself in a way that clearly communicates that. Some items are off limits because they don't fit the look. Flip flops? Not even as shower shoes, because you're a grown man. Deep irony here.

I find it interesting when people try to redefine words to have the opposite meaning. We now have someone saying `utility` choices are actually `fashion/vanity` choices. lol. They're just transparently playing word games, on purpose, but it's still amusing.

Not playing with words, I'll tell you straight up that you sound self-conscious about how you look.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your argument could be read as beauty not mattering. For a different POV, countless animals will risk their life to look fabulous/make themselves stand from the pack to leave a legacy. Arguably fashion could be one of the most important thing to people. PS: on a side note, even in technical circles where we could expect more detachment from appearances in general, a lot of comment will revolve around "X looks dumb".…

However, we should use our intelligence to find ways to curb the extent to which clothing has become an obsession, becaue the clothing industry is unsustainable and creates enormous amounts of waste and pollution. With our big brains, surely we can find ways to differetiate and display our styles without so much waste? Or perhaps we should just go back to trying to make AI think like us...

As the same pattern arises in every domain, I don't see it as an issue with clothing in particular. We have depleted environmental resources and polluted with no bound in every field that didn't have extreme regulation.

I don't think we're obsessed over almonds and yet their production is wastingso much water in critical regions.

Right now it's cheaper to buy a new trouser than to have it repair by a local craftsman, and the fashion trends you are observing are also engineered and managed at an industry level, down to the color they'll want to push the next year.

TBH he answer could simply be regulation and bake the externalities in the price of the clothes. Some people will still change wardrobe every 3 months, but most won't have that luxury, and our views will adapt to that new reality.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Websters Dictionary can solve this for you, if you're still confused. You can compare both utility v.s. fashion and see who's right if you want. In the context we're using these words they're the exact opposite.

Are you sure you replied to the right post? Your reply doesn't seem to address either of the two points in the post to which you replied.

You should just admit some people genuinely don't follow trends. Bro it took me like 6 years to even notice everyone but me had ONLY black socks. White is Faux Pas. bwahahahahaha.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it interesting when people try to redefine words to have the opposite meaning. We now have someone saying `utility` choices are actually `fashion/vanity` choices. lol. They're just transparently playing word games, on purpose, but it's still amusing.

Not playing with words, I'll tell you straight up that you sound self-conscious about how you look.

Like I just told the other insult comic on this thread: "Bro it took me 6 years to even notice I was the only one still wearing white socks". Kinda shoots down your theory.
Post reply on HN