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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by truetraveller »

MP_1729 wrote: post #147
griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

That's not how pricing works. If o1-pro is 10% better than Claude, but you are a guy who makes $300,000 per year, but now can make $330,000 because o1-pro makes you more productive, then it makes sense to give Sam $2,400.

Yes. But also from the perspective of saving time. If it saves an additional 2 hours/month, and you make six figures, it's worth it.

And the perspective of frustration as well.

Business class is 4x the price of regular. definitely not 4x better. But it saves times + frustration.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by jl6 »

john-radio wrote: post #337
crazygringo wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In other words, it's a con. A con like that wouldn't last very long. This is for people who rely enough on ChatGPT Pro features that it becomes worth it. Whether they pay for it because they're freelance, or their employer does. Just because an LLM doesn't boost your productivity, doesn't mean it doesn't for people in other lines of work. Whether LLM's help you at your work is extremely domain-dependent.

A better way to express it than a "con" is that it's a price-framing device. It's like listing a watch at an initial value of $2,000 so that people will feel content to buy it at $400.

That sounds like a con to me too.

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Post by digitcatphd »

metacritic12 wrote: post #350
yosito wrote: post #75

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Do you also think $40K a year for Hubspot is insane? What about people who pay $1k in order to work on a field for 4 hours hitting a small ball with a stick? The truth is that there are people who value the marginal performance -- if you think it's insane, clearly it's not for you.

Their demo video was uploading a picture of a birdhouse and asking how to build it

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by echelon »

metacritic12 wrote: post #350
yosito wrote: post #75

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Do you also think $40K a year for Hubspot is insane? What about people who pay $1k in order to work on a field for 4 hours hitting a small ball with a stick? The truth is that there are people who value the marginal performance -- if you think it's insane, clearly it's not for you.

I'm extremely excited because this margin represents opportunity for all the other LLM startups.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by blobbers »

You can also buy a $75 baseball hat through a FB ad.

Might not be dropshipped through Temu, but you're going to end up with the same $1 hat.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by ilaksh »

People saying this is a "con" have no understanding of the cost of compute. o1 is expensive and gets more expensive the harder the problems are. Some people could use $500 or more via the API per month. So I assume the $200 price point for "unlimited" is set that high mainly because it's too easy for people to use up $100 or $150 worth of resources.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by acchow »

griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

I find o1 much better for having discussions or solving problems, then usually switch to Claude for code generation.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by Tagbert »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #308

Will this mean that the "free" and $20 "regular person" offerings will start to degrade to push more people into the $200 offering?

Less likely as long as you have Claude, Gemini, and others as competition. If the ChatGPT offerings start to suck, people will switch to another AI.
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