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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by echoangle »

MP_1729 wrote: post #147
griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

That's not how pricing works. If o1-pro is 10% better than Claude, but you are a guy who makes $300,000 per year, but now can make $330,000 because o1-pro makes you more productive, then it makes sense to give Sam $2,400.

Having a tool that’s 10% better doesn’t make your whole work 10% better though.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by bluedays »

aliasxneo wrote: post #138
griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

I haven't used ChatGPT in a few weeks now. I still maintain subscriptions to both ChatGPT and Claude, but I'm very close to dropping ChatGPT entirely. The only useful thing it provides over Claude is a decent mobile voice mode and web search.

I’ve been considering dropping ChatGPT for the same reason. Now that the app is out the only thing I actually care about is search.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by superfrank »

griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

I've heard this a lot and so I switched to Claude for a month and was super disappointed. What are you mainly using ChatGPT for?

Personally, I found Claude marginally better for coding, but far, far worse for just general purpose questions (e.g. I'm a new home owner and I need to winterize my house before our weather drops below freezing. What are some steps I should take or things I should look into?)

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by VeejayRampay »

griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

Claude is so much better

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by zackangelo »

A few thoughts:

* Will this be the start of enshittification of the base ChatGPT offering?

* There may also be some complementary products announced this month that make the $200 worth it

* Is this the start of a bigger industry trend of prices more closely aligning to the underlying costs of running the model? I suspect a lot of the big players have been running their inference infrastructure at a loss.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by abraxas »

Is it rolled out worldwide? I'm accessing it from Canada and don't have an option to upgrade from Plus.

EDIT: Correction. It now started to show the upgrade offer but when I try it comes back with "There was a problem updating your subscription". Anyone else seeing this?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by yosito »

jrflowers wrote: post #177
yosito wrote: post #75

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> In other words, it's a con. I'm a paying Perplexity user I love this back-to-back pair of statements. It is like “You can never win three card monte. I pay a monthly subscription fee to play it.”

I pay $10/month for perplexity because I fully understand its limitations. I will not pay $200/month for an LLM.
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