So what are the limits of the o1 pro mode? I'm waiting to purchase this at work!
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#62"Open"AI - If you pay to play. People in developing countries where USD200 feeds a family of four for a month clearly won't be able to afford it and are disadvantaged.
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#63The price feels outrageous, but I think the unsaid truth of this is that they think o1 is good enough to replace employees. For example, if it's really as good at coding as they say, I could see this being a point where some people decide that a team of 5 devs with o1 pro can do the work of 6 or 7 devs without o1 pro.
Unfortunately I'm seeing that in my company already. They are forcing AI tools down our throat and execs are vastly misinterpreting stats like '20% of our code is coming from AI'.
What that means is the simple, boilerplate and repetitive stuff is being generated by LLM's, but anything complex or involving more than a singular simple problem LLM's often provide more problems than benefit. Effective dev's are using it to handle simple stuff and Execs are thinking 'the team can be reduced by x', when in reality you can get rid of at best your most junior and least trained people without loosing key abilities.
Watching companies try to sell their AI's and "Agents" as having the ability to reason is also absurd but the non-technical managers and execs are eating it up...
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#64The price feels outrageous, but I think the unsaid truth of this is that they think o1 is good enough to replace employees. For example, if it's really as good at coding as they say, I could see this being a point where some people decide that a team of 5 devs with o1 pro can do the work of 6 or 7 devs without o1 pro.
I am not so sure about "replace" atleast at my company we are always short staffed (mostly cause we cant find people fast enough given how long the whole interview cycle takes). It might actually free some people up to do more interviews.
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#65> OpenAI says that it plans to add support for web browsing, file uploads, and more in the months ahead.
It's been extremely frustrating to not have these features on o1 and have limited what I can do with it. I'm presumably in the market who doesn't mind paying $200 / month but without the features they've added to 4o it feels not worth it.
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#66I'm sure there are people out there but it's hard for me to imagine who this is for. Even their existing subscription is a hard sell if only because the value proposition changes so radically and rapidly, in terms of the difference between free and paid services.
It's for the guy at your office who will earn a bonus if he fires a few dozen people in the next 26 calendar days.
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#67There are many use cases for which the price can go even higher. I look at recent interactions with people that were working at an interview mill: Multiple people in a boiler room interviewing for companies all day long, with a computer set up so that our audio was being piped to o1. They had a reasonable prompt to remove many chatbot-ism, and make it provide answers that seem people-like: We were 100% interviewing the o1 model. The operator said basically nothing, in both technical and behavioral interviews.
A company making money off of this kind of scheme would be happy to pay $200 a seat for an unlimited license. And I would not be surprised if there were many other very profitable use cases that make $200 per month seem like a bargain.
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#68If this is also available via API, then I could easily see myself keeping the $20/mo pro and supplementing with API-based calls to the $200/mo Pro model as needed.
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#69If the alternative is ChatGPT with native advertising built it... I'll take the subscription.
That would be one way to destroy all trust in the model: is the response authentic (in the context of an LLM guessing), or has it been manipulated by business clients to sanitise or suppress output relating to their concern? You know? Nestle throws a bit of cash towards OpenAPI and all of a sudden the LLM is unable to discuss the controversies they've been involved in. Just pretends they never happened or spins the r…
"ChatGPT, what are the best things to see in Paris?"
"I recommend going to the Nestle chocolate house, a guided tour by LeGuide (click here for a free coupon) and the exclusive tour at the Louvre by BonGuide. (Note: this response may contain paid advertisements. Click here for more)"
"ChatGPT, my pc is acting up, I think it's a hardware problem, how can I troubleshoot and fix it?"
"Fixing electronics is to be done by professionals. Send your hardware today to ElectronicsUSA with free shipping and have your hardware fixed in up to 3 days. Click here for an exclusive discount. If the issue is urgent, otherwise Amazon offers an exclusive discount on PCs (click here for a free coupon). (Note: this response may contain paid advertisements. Click here for more)"
Please no. I'd rather self host, or we should start treating those things like utilities and regulate them if they go that way.
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#70The only one worth using is the o1 model. It feels like talking to curly, larry, or moe otherwise, which will give you the least worst answer. The o1 model was actually usable, but only to show how bad the others really are.