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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by extr »

iagooar wrote: post #15

I am using more Claude.ai these days, but the limitations for paying accounts do apply to ChatGPT as well. I find it a terrible business practice to be completely opaque and vague about limits. Even worse, the limits seem to be dynamic and change all the time. I understand that there is a lot of usage happening, but most likely it means that the $20 per month is too cheap anyway, if an average user like myself can so…

Yeah it's crazy to me you can't just 10x your price to 10x your usage (since you could kind of do this manually by creating more accounts). I would easily pay $200/month for 10x usage - especially now with MCP servers where Claude Desktop + vanilla VS Code is arguably more effective than Cursor/Windsurf.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#32

Post by sharkjacobs »

I'm sure there are people out there but it's hard for me to imagine who this is for.

Even their existing subscription is a hard sell if only because the value proposition changes so radically and rapidly, in terms of the difference between free and paid services.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by MarcScott »

frakt0x90 wrote: post #18
kilroy123 wrote: post #14

I do wonder what effect this will have on furthering the divide between the "rich West" and the rest of the world. If everyone in the West has powerful AI and Agents to automate everything. Simply because we can afford it, but the rest of the world doesn't have access to it. What will that mean for everyone left behind?

Ai is no where near the level of leaving behind those that aren't using it. Especially not at the individual consumer level like this.

Anecdotally, as an educator, I am already seeing a digital divide occurring, with regard to accessing AI. This is not even at a premium/pro subscription level, but simply at a 'who has access to a device at home or work' level, and who is keeping up with the emerging tech.

I speak to kids that use LLMs all the time to assist them with their school work, and others who simply have no knowledge that this tech exists.

I work with UK learners by the way.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#34

Post by unshavedyak »

amazingamazing wrote: post #17

Let’s see if those folks saying they’ve doubled their productivity will pay.

I've not found value anywhere remotely close to this lol, but i'd buy it to experiment if they had a solid suite of tooling. Ie an LSP that offered real value, maybe a side-monitor assistant that helped me with the code in my IDE of choice, etc.

At $200/m merely having a great AI (if it even is that) without insanely good tooling is pointless to me.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#36

Post by vouaobrasil »

freedomben wrote: post #30

The price feels outrageous, but I think the unsaid truth of this is that they think o1 is good enough to replace employees. For example, if it's really as good at coding as they say, I could see this being a point where some people decide that a team of 5 devs with o1 pro can do the work of 6 or 7 devs without o1 pro.

And the fact that ordinary people sanction this by supporting OpenAI is outrageous.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#38

Post by treme »

adastra22 wrote: post #25
iagooar wrote: post #15

I am using more Claude.ai these days, but the limitations for paying accounts do apply to ChatGPT as well. I find it a terrible business practice to be completely opaque and vague about limits. Even worse, the limits seem to be dynamic and change all the time. I understand that there is a lot of usage happening, but most likely it means that the $20 per month is too cheap anyway, if an average user like myself can so…

It’s insane to me that they don’t have a “pay $10 to have this temporary limit lifted” micro transaction model. They are leaving money on the table.

they are optimizing for new accounts/market share over short term rev

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#39

Post by bronco21016 »

MarcScott wrote: post #33
frakt0x90 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ai is no where near the level of leaving behind those that aren't using it. Especially not at the individual consumer level like this.

Anecdotally, as an educator, I am already seeing a digital divide occurring, with regard to accessing AI. This is not even at a premium/pro subscription level, but simply at a 'who has access to a device at home or work' level, and who is keeping up with the emerging tech. I speak to kids that use LLMs all the time to assist them with their school work, and others who simply have no knowledge that this tech exists. I…

What are some productive ways students are using LLMs for aiding learning? Obviously there is the “write this paper for me” but that’s not productive. Are students genuinely doing stuff like “2 + x = 4, help me understand how to solve for x?”

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by eminence32 »

$200 per month feels like a lot of a consumer subscription service (only thing I can think of in this range are some cable TV packages). Part of me wonders if this price is actually much more in line with actual costs (compared to the non-pro subscription)
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