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Re: Oracle files notice of appearance for JavaScript trademark [pdf]

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Post by thrdbndndn »

wk_end wrote: post #64
thrdbndndn wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So he was supposed to just accept being called "Butt-Head Astronomer"? Sure, I’d respect him more if he did, but I’m not going to call him pompous or having a big ego just because he didn’t.

It’s not very nice to call someone a butthead, but to sue over it just sort of makes their case.

I'm a bit lost here. Shouldn't the blame fall more on the people who used someone else's name without permission and acted like jerks when asked to stop?

Why are we holding the victim to a higher standard now?

Re: Oracle files notice of appearance for JavaScript trademark [pdf]

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #71
wk_end wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not very nice to call someone a butthead, but to sue over it just sort of makes their case.

I'm a bit lost here. Shouldn't the blame fall more on the people who used someone else's name without permission and acted like jerks when asked to stop? Why are we holding the victim to a higher standard now?

It's possible for someone to have the legal right to demand something and still be a butthead for demanding it. Noting that fact doesn't make you a jerk.

Re: Oracle files notice of appearance for JavaScript trademark [pdf]

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Post by Nevermark »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #71
wk_end wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not very nice to call someone a butthead, but to sue over it just sort of makes their case.

I'm a bit lost here. Shouldn't the blame fall more on the people who used someone else's name without permission and acted like jerks when asked to stop? Why are we holding the victim to a higher standard now?

If he had called Apple “a butthead fruit company”, it wouldn’t make sense to hold him to higher standard.

But a legal response to some light hearted rudeness? That was him taking things to a significantly lower standard.

If instead, he had used “Butthead Astronomer” to refer to himself on occasion, that would have only added to his (already significant and well deserved) legendary status.

Re: Oracle files notice of appearance for JavaScript trademark [pdf]

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Post by thayne »

7thpower wrote: post #34
thayne wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The surprise (kind of) is that Oracle wants to fight it.

They have something valuable and they gain nothing from giving it up.

What value do they get from it? And in order to keep it, they must expend resources, and negative PR (although Oracle already had a bad enough reputation, that this would probably be negligible).

Re: Oracle files notice of appearance for JavaScript trademark [pdf]

#80

Post by thrdbndndn »

Nevermark wrote: post #77
thrdbndndn wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit lost here. Shouldn't the blame fall more on the people who used someone else's name without permission and acted like jerks when asked to stop? Why are we holding the victim to a higher standard now?

If he had called Apple “a butthead fruit company”, it wouldn’t make sense to hold him to higher standard. But a legal response to some light hearted rudeness? That was him taking things to a significantly lower standard. If instead, he had used “Butthead Astronomer” to refer to himself on occasion, that would have only added to his (already significant and well deserved) legendary status.

> If he had called Apple “a butthead fruit company”, it wouldn’t make sense to hold him to higher standard.

What is this supposed to mean?

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