No surprise here. If someone files to cancel your trademark and you want to fight it, you file an appearance.
You would file an appearance anyway, because who wants a default judgement?
Oracle files notice of appearance for JavaScript trademark [pdf]
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personally, I think the subsequent libel lawsuits demonstrates it was all just ego
So he was supposed to just accept being called "Butt-Head Astronomer"? Sure, I’d respect him more if he did, but I’m not going to call him pompous or having a big ego just because he didn’t.
It’s not very nice to call someone a butthead, but to sue over it just sort of makes their case.
Re: Oracle files notice of appearance for JavaScript trademark [pdf]
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#66Maybe we could change the filetype from .js to .bho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litigation_involving_Apple_Inc...
There’s another part of this story that Wikipedia leaves out The other two original Power Mac models had the code names “Piltdown Man” and “Cold Fusion”—not exactly the sort of thing someone like Sagan would want to be implicitly associated with.
Why would Sagan not want to be associated with cold fusion?
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#67I'm really curious about Oracle's motivation for fighting this. What value do they see in continuing to hold a trademark they aren't really using, and no one associates with them anyway?
It’s their asset. It came with their $7.4 billion acquisition of Sun. I know it’s popular to hate on Oracle, and it’s deserved in many cases, but any company in this situation would defend their IP. Obviously it has value or somebody wouldn’t be trying to cancel it.
> It’s their asset
To be clear, the trademark is their asset. Sun trademarked the name JavaScript in 1997, for reasons assumed to be related to Java, probably in anticipation of a use case that never arrived. This had nothing to do with the existing language JavaScript which was created in 1993, and had no relationship with Sun.
> Obviously it has value or somebody wouldn’t be trying to cancel it.
"Somebody" is trying to cancel it because Oracle have been blindly defending it, not because it has any business value to Oracle. The JavaScript language has precedence, and today it's sheer popularity and major role in open web standard means Oracle could not possibly benefit from using it for any business purpose due to the strong existing association. It's only practical purpose is to torment the JavaScript community and further cement Oracle's reputation as a litigious cancer of the technology world.
They blindly defend it because they are a mindless lawnmower that consumed it, not because they are the wiser and know it has value.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s another part of this story that Wikipedia leaves out The other two original Power Mac models had the code names “Piltdown Man” and “Cold Fusion”—not exactly the sort of thing someone like Sagan would want to be implicitly associated with.
Why would Sagan not want to be associated with cold fusion?
Perhaps Sagan had undisclosed resentment toward Adobe ColdFusion as well.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s another part of this story that Wikipedia leaves out The other two original Power Mac models had the code names “Piltdown Man” and “Cold Fusion”—not exactly the sort of thing someone like Sagan would want to be implicitly associated with.
Why would Sagan not want to be associated with cold fusion?
Because it was only like 5 years after Fleischmann and Pons sparked headlines in every major newspaper as scientific frauds?
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real context is that Deno recently filed a petition to cancel the trademark: https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92086835
Yes, and Ryan Dahl (creator of Node and Deno), posted Dear Oracle, Please Release the JavaScript Trademark on his website to market that petition.
The term “petition” is being used here in a technical legal sense. Colloquially we’d probably just call it a “lawsuit” challenging the JacvsScript trademark.