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Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

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Re: Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

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We were just discussing this TODAY in our weekly AI Playground meetup; that someone will soon make something like this. I’m curious if private ngos or companies can use it as well? Can we track policy and potential impacts on industry? Etc?

Check out https://app.gov-notes.com/ - dig into US congressional committee hearing videos (for free)

Re: Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

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Congrats on the launch! I know it is truly the peak of the spirit of Hacker News to make the first comment a nitpick, but the fact that your name is a play on Pentagon but your logo is a hexagon causes me irrational levels of emotional distress.

Think of it as a polygon with about 4 km circumference: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/parsa#Noun

Re: Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well if you ask GPT-4o the following: Give me keywords to search for based on this sentence "international relations about the country with the capital city of Ankara" You get the following: - Turkey international relations - Ankara diplomacy - Turkey foreign policy - Turkey global partnerships - Turkey international politics - Turkey geopolitical strategy - Turkey foreign affairs - Turkey global relations - Turkey N…

This is a demo from a small startup dedicated to enhancing government transparency, which I greatly appreciate. As a result, my expectations are aligned with this goal, and I refer to this as a smoke test. Achieving accuracy with RAG and LLMs is a challenging task that requires balancing precision and recall. For instance, when you type "Ankara" into GPT-4o, it provides information about Turkey. However, searching "A…

> Achieving accuracy with RAG and LLMs is a challenging task that requires balancing precision and recall

The challenge is domain knowledge and not tech in my opinion. There are dozens if not hundreds of companies providing RAG and LLM, but the challenge is, like you pointed out, what should you do if you encounter something like "Ankara".

For BestBuy, this might not mean much, unless there is a BestBuy in Turkey. For a government related site, cities and geography is important, so trying to extract additional meaning from Ankara is probably important.

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Perhaps I am not using it right, I wanted to see if I could get a list of sources for "policy roadblocks to timely court justice" for the last 7 days in the UK. I get some interesting articles, but only really one was relevant even then it was only tangential. Its kinda useful as a news cutting service, but its really not precise enough to replace a decent PR summary report. for housing policy It either over indexes…

So we actually have 2 search tools. One is the one you see here, which is made to be less precise, but returns more results and returns them faster.

The other sounds more like what you are looking for. It returns a more focused set of results and actually generates PR summary reports as PDFs for our customers.

However, we can't really give a public demo to HN of this second one, because it takes 1-3 minutes per run and is quite computationally intensive. (And we were told that our HN launch should demo something the community can easily play around with).

That being said, if you want an example of the output of this second search tool, you can see it here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sandy-suh-2ba05bb0_parsagons-...

In short, I don't think you're doing anything wrong. I think you're looking for a more precise version of our product that we weren't able to provide a demo for

Re: Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

#46
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It still boggles my mind what mental & legal gymnastics are passed through to get 3 years of funding for what looks like someone last night put together a RAG of a cbp data dump that you get for free from their site. Not saying it's not useful, just fascinated at what excuses have gone in endless meetings for 3 years to do whats basically an afternoons worth of work. Yes I mean that literally. You start off an aws ra…

Honestly, if you or anyone else has a really easy way to get all communications/publications from every government/government-adjacent body, I genuinely would love to hear it. Especially at the regional/local level, cause those can be a real pain, and we'd love to save ourselves some time

Re: Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

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post #37

It still boggles my mind what mental & legal gymnastics are passed through to get 3 years of funding for what looks like someone last night put together a RAG of a cbp data dump that you get for free from their site. Not saying it's not useful, just fascinated at what excuses have gone in endless meetings for 3 years to do whats basically an afternoons worth of work. Yes I mean that literally. You start off an aws ra…

Honestly, if you or anyone else has a really easy way to get all communications/publications from every government/government-adjacent body, I genuinely would love to hear it. Especially at the regional/local level, cause those can be a real pain, and we'd love to save ourselves some time

At least for the US, the Federal Register would be a good place to start if you're not scraping it already: https://www.federalregister.gov/developers/documentation/api...

Federal news radio: https://federalnewsnetwork.com/

Government procurement announcements and opportunities: https://sam.gov/reports/awards/standard

In general, you might get more traction if you tilt this toward government contract capture a la Deltek GovWin and other companies. Lots of money in contract intelligence as well as proposal support (in addition to government relations / lobbying)

Re: Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, if you or anyone else has a really easy way to get all communications/publications from every government/government-adjacent body, I genuinely would love to hear it. Especially at the regional/local level, cause those can be a real pain, and we'd love to save ourselves some time

At least for the US, the Federal Register would be a good place to start if you're not scraping it already: https://www.federalregister.gov/developers/documentation/api... Federal news radio: https://federalnewsnetwork.com/ Government procurement announcements and opportunities: https://sam.gov/reports/awards/standard In general, you might get more traction if you tilt this toward government contract capture a la Del…

Yep we get the sources above. We've definitely thought about contract capture--we've just been hesitant because it seems like such a competitive space. But it's definitely tempting, and it wouldn't take much to convince us for sure

Re: Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

#49
post #37

It still boggles my mind what mental & legal gymnastics are passed through to get 3 years of funding for what looks like someone last night put together a RAG of a cbp data dump that you get for free from their site. Not saying it's not useful, just fascinated at what excuses have gone in endless meetings for 3 years to do whats basically an afternoons worth of work. Yes I mean that literally. You start off an aws ra…

Honestly, if you or anyone else has a really easy way to get all communications/publications from every government/government-adjacent body, I genuinely would love to hear it. Especially at the regional/local level, cause those can be a real pain, and we'd love to save ourselves some time

What's the order of magnitude of the amount of data sources? 100s, 1000s, tens of thousands?

Re: Launch HN: Parsagon (YC W21) – AI for public affairs and government relations

#50
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, if you or anyone else has a really easy way to get all communications/publications from every government/government-adjacent body, I genuinely would love to hear it. Especially at the regional/local level, cause those can be a real pain, and we'd love to save ourselves some time

What's the order of magnitude of the amount of data sources? 100s, 1000s, tens of thousands?

Definitely many thousands, possibly the 10s of thousands depending on what you count as a source (e.g., if you get press releases from one part if an agency’s site, and speeches from another part, one could consider those separate sources I suppose).
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