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Re: Show HN: Outerbase Studio – Open-Source Database GUI

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Post by Brian_K_White »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #6
stronglikedan wrote: post #3

I downloaded it, fired it up locally, was presented with a login screen , closed it, and uninstalled it. Sorry, but I don't log into local software.

I saw that it was AGPL licensed, which was odd to me for something that's supposed to be a client. I don't like the AGPL license because of how overbearing it is, I avoid downloading AGPL'd software, unless its a pure compiled binary. I am probably a little too strict about software licenses, but I rather always have the freedom to keep any forks to myself, don't force me to share code for my one-off project.

AGPL does not prevent anything that anyone has any right to want. The more someone cries that agpl (or gpl3, or gpl-any) is "overbearing", the more they expose how they wish they could steal. You can't say one without saying the other, they are the same statement. And it's an extra level of amazing to need to steal something that's already free.

You can absolutely not only use agpl software, for free, you can even sell access to it. SO OVERBEARING

If you can't stand the burden of having to share with the next guy that which you yourself were given for free, there is no reason for anyone else to feel the tiniest bit of sympathy.

Feel free to write your own software and set whatever terms you like. Surely the need to write it and develop it to the point of actually being any good is not overbearing at all.

Or feel free to license software from someone selling it. Surely Oracle or IBM terms will not be overbearing at all.

Do people even hear themselves?

Re: Show HN: Outerbase Studio – Open-Source Database GUI

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Post by benatkin »

freeone3000 wrote: post #10
giancarlostoro wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw that it was AGPL licensed, which was odd to me for something that's supposed to be a client. I don't like the AGPL license because of how overbearing it is, I avoid downloading AGPL'd software, unless its a pure compiled binary. I am probably a little too strict about software licenses, but I rather always have the freedom to keep any forks to myself, don't force me to share code for my one-off project.

AGPL still only requires you to share the code if you’re sharing the fork in some form (binary or networked).

Um, no. That isn't sharing it. That isn't even having users run it. It's just letting others use it via the network.

It's Freedom Zero because you certainly have the freedom to use it, along with a lot of other freedoms. But you have to adopt the license for the code it touches if you involve others in your Freedom Zero use of it.

Re: Show HN: Outerbase Studio – Open-Source Database GUI

#73

Post by eirikbakke »

slaucon wrote: post #59
carlosjobim wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember I used TablePlus, which was what you described. Very pleasant program. Not browser based, though.

Yeah, my last company paid for a subscription to this. Enjoyed using it. Don’t think there’s a massive market, but definitely lots of devs who want easy DB access and would pay $5/month.

The average true cost to acquire a single customer is in the hundreds of dollars, to pay for sales & marketing labor, advertising etc. So $5/month is nearly equivalent to "free" from a business perspective.

https://firstpagesage.com/marketing/average-cac-for-saas-bus...

Re: Show HN: Outerbase Studio – Open-Source Database GUI

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Post by mistrial9 »

mritchie712 wrote: post #56
j1mmie wrote: post #29

For years I've wondered why a general purpose, high quality, good UX, browser based DB browser has not existed. I've implemented 3 such (not general-purpose) browsers in my career. But I'd be really happy to stop doing that and use this instead. I would love to see a Firestore driver implemented (maybe I'll take a crack at it some day), as I'm stuck in GCP land for the time being.

I think it's because there's no business model in the pure "DB browser" product. People don't seem willing to pay enough for it to build a good business around it. Everyone I've seen either pivots to a Retool competitor or a BI tool. Source: I've tried it twice.

small teams and individuals have failed to make enough money selling technical tooling products since forever; enthusiastic engineers keep building them. source: the 1990s

Re: Show HN: Outerbase Studio – Open-Source Database GUI

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Post by Aeolun »

wiradikusuma wrote: post #69
mayli wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

dbeaver? it has dbeaver community edition, and supports tons of database.

DBeaver's UI/UX is.. functional.

I can’t immediately say what I dislike about the dbeaver UI, but I fully agree with your statement.

Re: Show HN: Outerbase Studio – Open-Source Database GUI

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Post by irunmyownemail »

mayli wrote: post #63
j1mmie wrote: post #29

For years I've wondered why a general purpose, high quality, good UX, browser based DB browser has not existed. I've implemented 3 such (not general-purpose) browsers in my career. But I'd be really happy to stop doing that and use this instead. I would love to see a Firestore driver implemented (maybe I'll take a crack at it some day), as I'm stuck in GCP land for the time being.

dbeaver? it has dbeaver community edition, and supports tons of database.

dbeaver is my preference as well.

Re: Show HN: Outerbase Studio – Open-Source Database GUI

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Post by abraxas »

ndrake wrote: post #65
j1mmie wrote: post #29

For years I've wondered why a general purpose, high quality, good UX, browser based DB browser has not existed. I've implemented 3 such (not general-purpose) browsers in my career. But I'd be really happy to stop doing that and use this instead. I would love to see a Firestore driver implemented (maybe I'll take a crack at it some day), as I'm stuck in GCP land for the time being.

This isn't bad: https://github.com/sqlpad/sqlpad/tree/master

It's quite nice and really lightweight but it's also very basic. So basic you can't even click on the table name in the side panel to see a preview of the data. I use it every day but yearn for a few more features.

Re: Show HN: Outerbase Studio – Open-Source Database GUI

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Post by maxloh »

For similar projects, check out:

- Supabase Studio (open source, Postgres only) https://github.com/supabase/supabase/tree/master/apps/studio

- Prisma Studio (closed source, supporting most popular databases) https://www.prisma.io/studio

- Drizzle Studio (closed source, supporting most popular databases) https://orm.drizzle.team/drizzle-studio/overview

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