"There’s a lot more money being spent on understanding and modeling the market than on any of the research.” - what the shit
HP Memristors Will Reinvent Computer Memory "by 2014"
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Re: HP Memristors Will Reinvent Computer Memory "by 2014"
#22They should starting to bring out developer packages asap, because memory is not the only thing you can do with it as you can see from the presentations and papers. I find the stuff it can do BESIDES memory actually more interesting and really would like to get experimenting with it.
They have my snail-mail address. I won't be sad if a package arrives.
Re: HP Memristors Will Reinvent Computer Memory "by 2014"
#23I'd like to see neural nets built out of these.
Re: HP Memristors Will Reinvent Computer Memory "by 2014"
#24They should starting to bring out developer packages asap, because memory is not the only thing you can do with it as you can see from the presentations and papers. I find the stuff it can do BESIDES memory actually more interesting and really would like to get experimenting with it.
Even if the base circuit elements are made of memristors instead of transistors, the traces on top of them still need to be laid out in the traditional manner. So the fixed cost of bringing even a small memristor device to market is millions.
Memristors are not some magic stuff that suddenly makes FPGAs as efficient as ASICs, nor do they make then dramatically cheaper.
Re: HP Memristors Will Reinvent Computer Memory "by 2014"
#25They should starting to bring out developer packages asap, because memory is not the only thing you can do with it as you can see from the presentations and papers. I find the stuff it can do BESIDES memory actually more interesting and really would like to get experimenting with it.
Even if the base circuit elements are made of memristors instead of transistors, the traces on top of them still need to be laid out in the traditional manner. So the fixed cost of bringing even a small memristor device to market is millions. Memristors are not some magic stuff that suddenly makes FPGAs as efficient as ASICs, nor do they make then dramatically cheaper.
I'm not talking about magic; that's why I would like to see some (even expensive) developer version (as this is how new tech these days usually starts right?) come from HP. HP has the millions I would imagine and they know/see the potential (even though a lot of investment needs to go in to harvest that potential).
Re: HP Memristors Will Reinvent Computer Memory "by 2014"
#26So then memristors remain "in the future". sigh . I was naiive enough to believe them a year ago when they said "it'll be on the market in 18 months". I was really looking forward to that being true and ditching RAM in six months.
It may be 18 months in the RAM world but in memresistor world it is as long as you like and still holding the 18 months value :). That all said you are right and sadly come 2014 it will still not be available for your PC to replace your RAM as it will take that long again to define a standard and then that time again to have chipsets that support said standard. So for a consumer PC, i'd say 2017 is when you can look…
"it will still not be available for your PC to replace your RAM"
Re: HP Memristors Will Reinvent Computer Memory "by 2014"
#27> “Our partner, Hynix, is a major producer of flash memory, and memristors will cannibalise its existing business by replacing some flash memory with a different technology,” he said. “So the way we time the introduction of memristors turns out to be important. There’s a lot more money being spent on understanding and modeling the market than on any of the research.” Surely if they wait too long purely for profitable…
That passage leapt out at me too. In my simplistic geek mind this is totally arse-about-face, like the tail wagging the dog. Are these companies more interested in money than what they're actually doing? But to answer your point: Patents.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
It may be 18 months in the RAM world but in memresistor world it is as long as you like and still holding the 18 months value :). That all said you are right and sadly come 2014 it will still not be available for your PC to replace your RAM as it will take that long again to define a standard and then that time again to have chipsets that support said standard. So for a consumer PC, i'd say 2017 is when you can look…
"it will still not be available for your PC to replace your RAM" RAM? I thought this was a replacement for HDD and SSDs.
What are standard HDD bit cell sizes? I can't seem to find specs.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
It may be 18 months in the RAM world but in memresistor world it is as long as you like and still holding the 18 months value :). That all said you are right and sadly come 2014 it will still not be available for your PC to replace your RAM as it will take that long again to define a standard and then that time again to have chipsets that support said standard. So for a consumer PC, i'd say 2017 is when you can look…
"it will still not be available for your PC to replace your RAM" RAM? I thought this was a replacement for HDD and SSDs.
You're right, I had my techs backwards. I thought they were targeting RAM first, then flash second. It's actually the other way around. Flash was supposed to be dead next year, DRAM in 2014, and SRAM in 2015 (or somewhere around there).
http://www.dailytech.com/HP+to+Deploy+Memristor+Powered+SSD+...
Re: HP Memristors Will Reinvent Computer Memory "by 2014"
#30I think memristors are a real contender for future devices; the darpa synapse reseaarch has shown that it's already a big backbone for future ai devices.