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Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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This is an interesting take, because it contrasts with GDP PPP [0] which is suggesting that America is in fact being overtaken by its rivals although it has managed to outpace the EU. China is claiming to already be ahead and India is well on track to gain absolute economic ascendancy relative to the US. And I expect that Asia is going to start developing some serious military muscle on the back of that because they…

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Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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That's an excellent summary of the economic state of the world. This excerpt is depressing...

  The challenge for other advanced economies is not just replicating America’s dynamism. It is to do so while retaining their cherished social safeguards.
  For all its economic power, the US has the largest income inequality in the G7, coupled with the lowest life expectancy and the highest housing costs, according to the OECD. Market competition is limited and millions of workers endure unstable employment conditions.
The pessimistic take is that American FA*NG 'enshittification' and cheap Chinese plastic junk will continue to eat the world, while other nations abandon consumer- and labor-friendly policies.

Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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It's thanks to innovative business models, of course!

Increasing you investment efficiency with FTX. Reducing farmer idle time with Deere. Sharing your otherwise unused car with Uber. Revolutionising office productivity with technology, like those beer taps that WeWork had. Spending less time on your savings with Yotta. Not reading long emails with AI.

I wonder how high productivity actually turns out if you remove every scam that inflated GDP or earnings numbers.

Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They served as bases to spread the American culture through music and cinema and later with the industry through the coal and steel community, to create a single and unified market The US did not want to create competition, but to break monopolies and to create a unified market for its industrial complex The remnants of that goal are visible today with Big Tech

That manchester capitalism with different decorations rhetoric does not hold up to scrutiny. In particular when you hold it against current examples of economic colonialism like the chines lend & own campaign in Africa .

Without an army or control over territory, it cannot reach the level of colonization. African countries often default on their debts.

Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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How so? Healthcare? FIRE seems much more attainable in the US

Housing and healthcare costs are insane. When you're older, you need a lot more healthcare (and you won't have that nice insurance plan you had at your big company job when you were working), and housing keeps getting more expensive, which is a problem if you're on a fixed income. You could move to much cheaper locales (i.e. rural areas), but those are "healthcare deserts" where there's no competent doctors left and…

Housing in US is in fact one of the cheapest... everywhere, measured as price per square foot as percentage of income. Several times cheaper than in many countries and at least somewhat cheaper than almost every single one, rich or poor, democratic or authoritarian.

It's just that "normal" housing in the US is what's only attainable to the very rich and only because they inherited it, in most of Europe let's say: even 1% won't be able to buy an equivalent of median new US single family house, in EU - that 1% probably owns a similar or somewhat better house but simply because they bought or built it generations before.

Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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Make no mistake, the US is a fantastic business. It makes a lot of money, and some people get fantastically rich while others toil for life and hover at the poverty line. With a vastly higher percentage of its citizens in jail than any other developed country, much higher crime and violence than developed countries and many other very bad indicators it is, however, not a good country. It does not provide for or look…

> It does not provide for or look after its citizens in the ways other developed countries do

It's worth asking why.

> NATO nations have cut back on troops and military hardware since the Cold War. But Europe has cut far deeper than the US. Defense budgets have become a pot that could be raided to fund more pressing priorities, such as treating and caring for aging populations. As a result, much of Europe’s military has become, in the view of some US defense experts, a “Potemkin army” that is ill-prepared to wage and win a prolonged war.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-nato-armed-forces/

Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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> the improvement was largely down to reconstruction efforts partly funded by the US via the Marshall Plan Most of the improvement was in Germany, which received far less MP money than Britain and France. Postwar prosperity correlates with the level of free markets. Germany embraced free markets up until 1970, Britain and France did not.

Saying Germany embraced the free market is not correct. Germany under Erhard had a social market economy (even during the "Wirtschaftswunder*, the economic miracle). While some free market principles were followed (price liberation, free trade) and it was certainly more market liberal than France at the time, it still came with substantial protection (universal healthcare, strong labor protections and unions, anti monopoly regulations etc.)

The situation back then was decidedly _not_ what the term "free market" (of the libertarian variety) would imply today.

Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They served as bases to spread the American culture through music and cinema and later with the industry through the coal and steel community, to create a single and unified market The US did not want to create competition, but to break monopolies and to create a unified market for its industrial complex The remnants of that goal are visible today with Big Tech

My dad was part of the occupation of postwar Germany. The bases were there to protect Germany against the Soviets. I remember once on the autobahn around 1970, and a fighter came by hedgehopping at high speed. He was a few feet off the ground, and looked like just under Mach 1. The citizens didn't particularly like the noise and disruption, but they understood the need for the Air Force to train hard. I also remember…

>BTW, the US Military was pretty thorough in making sure US personnel and military families behaved like guests in Germany, as they were invited guests. Ever since the Berlin Airlift, the US was friends with Germany.

All the more sad that the chief component of Japanese animosity towards Japan-stationed US forces are sexual crimes, particularly in Okinawa where the Marines especially don't seem to know how to keep their dicks in their pants. There have been at least two incidents just this year if I recall, and that's just of the ones we know.

I really can't blame the locals wanting Americans to get the fuck out, security be damned.

Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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The US is a great place to make a lot of money if you're lucky and successful, but a terrible place to retire.

Terrible place to be poor more like. Being poor is not enviable in any country, but you're better supported in some countries compared to others. Obviously this comes at a cost for the economy as a whole. At some point you need to think about what kind of society you want to live in.

Re: Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They served as bases to spread the American culture through music and cinema and later with the industry through the coal and steel community, to create a single and unified market The US did not want to create competition, but to break monopolies and to create a unified market for its industrial complex The remnants of that goal are visible today with Big Tech

My dad was part of the occupation of postwar Germany. The bases were there to protect Germany against the Soviets. I remember once on the autobahn around 1970, and a fighter came by hedgehopping at high speed. He was a few feet off the ground, and looked like just under Mach 1. The citizens didn't particularly like the noise and disruption, but they understood the need for the Air Force to train hard. I also remember…

The US places its military worldwide out of its own interest, not to protect anyone. That's a very rose colored glasses interpretation of the past and the present you have there.
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