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Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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If you're interested in making actually good software for the government, an agency that looks like it's genuinely dedicated to that end is the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

http://www.consumerfinance.gov/jobs/design-technology-fellow...

For their Design + Technology Fellowship, the deadline is this Friday.

You can complain about how government does things, or you can do something to fix it.

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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Interesting use of the gif there. I wonder if there will be a migration of these gifs from meme-based humor sites to more "legitimate" blogs and news sites. They are, after all, the visual equivalent to using quotes by famous people.

Sheeeit. We've had animated gifs on TheAtlantic.com HOMEPAGE since like 2011.

Well... ain't that a thing!

But, seriously, someone is going to write a thesis on gifs one day. It is "literally" an innovation in communications. While we currently associate gifs with memes, etc, you can see quite a few very creative ones on ffffound.com, for example. And,as you say, TheAtlantic now uses them.

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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post #51

For folks interested in helping solve the root cause of these sorts of things ... the White House is looking for people to help build a streamlined procurement process: http://www.whitehouse.gov/innovationfellows/rfpez ... hopefully making it possible for vendors build government web projects with bids for less than $150k, instead of millions of dollars per web site.

Sorry, but for a hacker streamlining procurement procedures sounds like a huge and extreemly boring timesink. Wouldn't this be something an mba would love anyway?

If you are a citizen and want to make federal government more effective and less expensive, why not?

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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post #51

For folks interested in helping solve the root cause of these sorts of things ... the White House is looking for people to help build a streamlined procurement process: http://www.whitehouse.gov/innovationfellows/rfpez ... hopefully making it possible for vendors build government web projects with bids for less than $150k, instead of millions of dollars per web site.

Sorry, but for a hacker streamlining procurement procedures sounds like a huge and extreemly boring timesink. Wouldn't this be something an mba would love anyway?

I think it would be something awesome to work on. I'm in software to make a difference, and dropping a digit or two off the cost of government projects could be quite an impact.

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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post #51

For folks interested in helping solve the root cause of these sorts of things ... the White House is looking for people to help build a streamlined procurement process: http://www.whitehouse.gov/innovationfellows/rfpez ... hopefully making it possible for vendors build government web projects with bids for less than $150k, instead of millions of dollars per web site.

Sorry, but for a hacker streamlining procurement procedures sounds like a huge and extreemly boring timesink. Wouldn't this be something an mba would love anyway?

A hacker that's also an MBA? :)

I'm sure somebody thinks this is an interesting challenge to tackle. The Uruguayan equivalent (AGESIC) did make a pretty nifty website for government procurement:

http://comprasestatales.gub.uy

explanation in Spanish:

http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/Other/...

English translation (Google):

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=...

It's a good initiative, but it has the side effect of making my blood pressure rise when I see the awarded projects (all relatively transparent, but still bad contracts)

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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The software is a "steaming pile of shit"? Of course, it was built by IBM Federal. Building software for U.S. gov't contractors is an awful, awful experience. The end result is the talented leave as soon as they can, because working in a red tape environment with ridiculous Information Assurance (that's gov't speak for their own ludicrous security theater that is their IT security process) policies makes you want to…

I'm sure that IBM Federal is as bad as you suggest. But part of that is due to how government works, which is in turn due to how citizens react to things. Think about it like a government employee. If you do your job perfectly well, nobody notices. Despite the bureaucracy, despite unclear success criteria, despite insane budgeting. Nobody notices. That's just what's expected. When something goes wrong, though, you ge…

That paralleled my brief career in government. Managers are not promoted for efficient decision making—they are promoted for not having been associated with an unsuccessful initiative.

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You misread the post. He didn't query data about an Android app. You really think $33 million is a reasonable number for building a web interface to existing data? Please, hire me for your next job. And I'll just leave this here: https://github.com/ireapps/census

> You really think $33 million is a reasonable number for building a web interface to existing data? Apparently, he/she does. I really wish I could understand why, though. Government corruption and waste hurts us all. Why do some people blow it off so easily?

Yeah, they should just have private subcontractors handle this stuff. Like IBM Federal or someone.

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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post #51

For folks interested in helping solve the root cause of these sorts of things ... the White House is looking for people to help build a streamlined procurement process: http://www.whitehouse.gov/innovationfellows/rfpez ... hopefully making it possible for vendors build government web projects with bids for less than $150k, instead of millions of dollars per web site.

Sorry, but for a hacker streamlining procurement procedures sounds like a huge and extreemly boring timesink. Wouldn't this be something an mba would love anyway?

It's no more boring than half the stupid start-ups that get mentioned here.

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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post #35
post #11

The software is a "steaming pile of shit"? Of course, it was built by IBM Federal. Building software for U.S. gov't contractors is an awful, awful experience. The end result is the talented leave as soon as they can, because working in a red tape environment with ridiculous Information Assurance (that's gov't speak for their own ludicrous security theater that is their IT security process) policies makes you want to…

I'm sure that IBM Federal is as bad as you suggest. But part of that is due to how government works, which is in turn due to how citizens react to things. Think about it like a government employee. If you do your job perfectly well, nobody notices. Despite the bureaucracy, despite unclear success criteria, despite insane budgeting. Nobody notices. That's just what's expected. When something goes wrong, though, you ge…

If your a government employee and something goes wrong you just claim that you didn't have enough money or resources to do the job. At least that's what everyone seems to do and they get away with it.

Re: Census Bureau's American FactFinder software cost taxpayers $33.3 million

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For $33 million, I would expect not to see "American FactFinder requires an Internet Browser with Javascript enabled." I would expect them to be able afford a developer who knows how to create links with an "a" tag rather than using Javascript to duplicate a core browser feature. Given that this is a federal website, $33 million should be more than enough money to comply with disability guidelines that forbid such sl…

> $33 million is 500 programmer man-years Where do you live where $66k/yr the total cost of employing a programmer? I don't know what IBM uses for its internal accounting, but based on what several other large tech companies use, $200k/yr is a decent guess (including salary+benefits+overhead). That'd mean 165 man-years, and only a fraction of those 165 would be programmers, since the contract also needs to pay for ma…

The midwest (Kansas, Missouri, so on...)? Seriously. $40K a year annual salary, and if you add in all the benefits, that might hit $66K.
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