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Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by sergiotapia »

Congratulations to the team and a tremendously big warm hug for creating something that makes my professional life easier and joyful.

Elixir is terrific, never feel like the language is slowing me down whatsoever.

The tools you need are unsurprising and boringly in your face. Oban background jobs, auth, encryption, the works.

The tools for your day to day are polished and immediately useful. mix ecto.reset, seeds.exs, mix test, mix format, mix compile --force to see warnings. Just everything right there in your fingertips and works unsurprisingly.

Performance to the point where you won't ever really worry about it until you've made it big. Literally using 275MB right now and chilling. Sub 100ms response times.

All this to say, give Elixir and Phoenix a try. It's been the best decision of my professional career to try it out in 2016.

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by mrdoops »

Most expensive part of the typical web app is the coordination cost between front and backend devs. Thus the rational to have 1 dev implement full stack. But the trade-off for coordination costs are heavy context switching and knowledge costs to know both ends. Neither option is very ideal and most companies have accepted the coordination costs.

But LiveView just ignores these problems and does full stack without the heavy costs. Elixir/Phoenix/LiveView is a tool-set for maximizing how far one dev can go.

You'd think this would be a selling point in many companies: to have less devs ship more features but those heavy SPA stacks let middle managers rationalize hiring bigger teams. LiveView is for shipping - not stalling.

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by st3fan »

chrismccord wrote: post #14

Phoenix creator here – excited to finally have shipped this! Happy to answer any elixir/phoenix/liveview questions. In case folks missed it, buried in the blog post is a new installer that lets folks try out elixir/phoenix in seconds. It installs elixir and generates a new phoenix project from a single command: osx/linux: $ curl https://new.phoenixframework.org/yourappname | sh windows powershell: > curl.exe -fsSO ht…

(Is it possible to add RSS to the blog? The articles are great but there is no good way to stay up to date.)

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by goosejuice »

chrismccord wrote: post #14

Phoenix creator here – excited to finally have shipped this! Happy to answer any elixir/phoenix/liveview questions. In case folks missed it, buried in the blog post is a new installer that lets folks try out elixir/phoenix in seconds. It installs elixir and generates a new phoenix project from a single command: osx/linux: $ curl https://new.phoenixframework.org/yourappname | sh windows powershell: > curl.exe -fsSO ht…

Congrats! Been running a startup off only liveview for about a year as a solo dev and it's been wonderful. Appreciate the work you all do.

Selfish demo idea: Bi-directional cursor based infinite pagination with largish datasets with state managed in the url and streaming updates that change the order of the results. Like some kind of soft realtime leaderboard.

With long render times (morphdom bench on large sets isn't great as far as I can tell) it's hard to escape the jank. Particularly on slow connections.

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by mike1o1 »

chrismccord wrote: post #14

Phoenix creator here – excited to finally have shipped this! Happy to answer any elixir/phoenix/liveview questions. In case folks missed it, buried in the blog post is a new installer that lets folks try out elixir/phoenix in seconds. It installs elixir and generates a new phoenix project from a single command: osx/linux: $ curl https://new.phoenixframework.org/yourappname | sh windows powershell: > curl.exe -fsSO ht…

Congrats on 1.0 and really appreciate all the work involved. One thing that I'd love to see is more demos around optimistic UI's. It's a lot of work, but Ryan Florence from Remix did a whole playlist [1] around recreating Trello in Remix.

One video or demo in particular that had some functionality I'd love to see in LiveView (or demo on how to do it) is Optimistic UI and Optimistic Add and Drag and Drop (the last three videos in the playlist).

1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXoynULbYuED9b2k5LS44...

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by mike1o1 »

LiveView is super exciting and extremely productive developer experience. One thing that I hope future versions can help address is what I call the "elevator" problem, in that if I'm using a LiveView app on an elevator (or in my case at Costco), it becomes unusable as the connection gets too flakey. While I get offline support will never happen, maybe better support for unreliable connections would be fantastic, though I get how that could be against the ethos of what LiveView is trying to do.

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by dantodor »

I still remember my gateway to Elixir, Dave Thomas' book on pragprog. And then his course. And I still remember how intrigued I was by the sentiments expressed by Dave, bringing back the joy of writing code. Which I see echoed in many comments here, and to whom I fully subscribe. Congratulations to Chris, Jose and team!

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by AlchemistCamp »

chrismccord wrote: post #14

Phoenix creator here – excited to finally have shipped this! Happy to answer any elixir/phoenix/liveview questions. In case folks missed it, buried in the blog post is a new installer that lets folks try out elixir/phoenix in seconds. It installs elixir and generates a new phoenix project from a single command: osx/linux: $ curl https://new.phoenixframework.org/yourappname | sh windows powershell: > curl.exe -fsSO ht…

I’ve been looking forward to this for a long time!

Congrats to you and everyone else who made it happen!

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by andrewmutz »

goosejuice wrote: post #24
chrismccord wrote: post #14

Phoenix creator here – excited to finally have shipped this! Happy to answer any elixir/phoenix/liveview questions. In case folks missed it, buried in the blog post is a new installer that lets folks try out elixir/phoenix in seconds. It installs elixir and generates a new phoenix project from a single command: osx/linux: $ curl https://new.phoenixframework.org/yourappname | sh windows powershell: > curl.exe -fsSO ht…

Congrats! Been running a startup off only liveview for about a year as a solo dev and it's been wonderful. Appreciate the work you all do. Selfish demo idea: Bi-directional cursor based infinite pagination with largish datasets with state managed in the url and streaming updates that change the order of the results. Like some kind of soft realtime leaderboard. With long render times (morphdom bench on large sets isn'…

How much state is it safe to store in the URL these days?

Re: Phoenix LiveView 1.0.0 is here

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Post by pawelduda »

6 years, what a journey. Still remember these first demos :)

I think this is my favourite piece of tech. And a lot of success stories, but would also love to hear if anyone ran into huge problems and had to ditch it? There are some footguns but overall I loved writing apps with LiveView, feels like magic.

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