Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US has its own problem with declining freedom.
This doesn't invalidate what I wrote.
True, but I'm pointing out that the issue is larger than what you wrote.
South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it
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#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Kremlin's sawing chaos in the democratic world "President Yoon has taken an overwhelmingly pro-US policy compared to previous presidents," and his "PPP is fiercely anti-communist and advocates a hawkish policy against North Korea" [1]. With "many PPP politicians support[ing] South Korea having nuclear weapons on its own," this is not the man Pyongyang or Moscow want as dicator in Seoul. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org…
I doubt this has anything to do with anybody outside of South Korea, but this is precisely the sort of man adversarial states would want. Think about what's going to happen next! You have an extremely unpopular leader trying to sieze power by force, presumably soon banning opposition parties and more. It's going to create extreme discontent at the minimum, and civil war at a maximum. And once he's eventually overthro…
> You have an extremely unpopular leader trying to sieze power by force, presumably soon banning opposition parties and more
By this logic America won when Assad won the Syrian civil war. In geopolitics, power trumps popularity.
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> making people do that for 14 days after traveling anywhere in the country is martial law in all but name only It's not. If we broaden to this definition, America has been under martial law since passports, border control and driver's licenses. > imposing fines instead of jailing people for exercising civil rights is still martial law No, it isn't. If we broaden to this definition, America has been under martial law…
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> Arguing the difference between a turd sandwich and a shit sandwich
It's arguing a rubber duck from a battleship. Emergency powers != martial law. Martial law in America would mean suspending the Constitution.
Calling anything that happened in America during lockdown martial law is the equivalent of Karen calling bad service at a restaurant an assault on her rights. It's misunderstanding a term but wanting to use it because it's edgy.
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#267The reason given is to root out pro-North Korean elements. How is red scare stuff still a thing?
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#268Orwell being so right about governments using the constant threat of a virtual enemy has got to be one of the all time top on the money predictions ever. Up there with gravity and shit. I wish we could do something with this information, but alas, knowledge isnt power. Cersei Lannister: Power is power.
Orwell being so right about governments using the constant threat of a virtual enemy has got to be one of the all time top on the money predictions ever. Who is that virtual enemy for the US?
probably Russia or China (though they might be more than virtual)
More likely Iran tbh
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#269Full text of South Korea's martial law decree:
> In order to protect liberal democracy from the threat of overthrowing the regime of the Republic of Korea by anti-state forces active within the Republic of Korea and to protect the safety of the people, the following is hereby declared throughout the Republic of Korea as of 23:00 on December 3, 2024:
> 1. All political activities, including the activities of the National Assembly, local councils, and political parties, political associations, rallies and demonstrations, are prohibited.
> 2. All acts that deny or attempt to overthrow the liberal democratic system are prohibited, and fake news, public opinion manipulation, and false propaganda are prohibited.
> 3. All media and publications are subject to the control of the Martial Law Command.
> 4. Strikes, work stoppages and rallies that incite social chaos are prohibited.
> 5. All medical personnel, including trainee doctors, who are on strike or have left the medical field must return to their jobs within 48 hours and work faithfully. Those who violate will be punished in accordance with the Martial Law.
> 6. Innocent ordinary citizens, excluding anti-state forces and other subversive forces, will be subject to measures to minimize inconvenience in their daily lives.
> Violators of the above proclamation may be arrested, detained, and searched without a warrant in accordance with Article 9 of the Martial Law Act of the Republic of Korea (Special Measures Authority of the Martial Law Commander), and will be punished in accordance with Article 14 of the Martial Law Act (Penalties).
> Martial Law Commander, Army General Park An-su, Tuesday, December 3, 2024.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/full-text-south-k...
so, the Assembly meeting to even discuss this is explicitly banned.
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#270Article 77 of the Korean Constitution: "1. When it is required to cope with a military necessity or to maintain the public safety and order by mobilization of the military forces in time of war, armed conict or similar national emergency, the President may proclaim martial law as prescribed by law. 2. Martial law shall be of two types, extraordinary martial law and precautionary martial law. 3. Under extraordinary ma…
Does that mean the precautionary kind doesn't give the government any extra power?