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Setelinleikkaus: When Finns snipped their cash in half to curb inflation

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Re: Setelinleikkaus: When Finns snipped their cash in half to curb inflation

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That is basically one of the conspiracy theories I have heard related to central bank digital currencies. As the tale goes, eventually major banks will run into another financial crisis (possibly intentionally if you really like conspiracy theories). The government will say they have no choice but to step in, and their solution will be to open the federal reserve to the public as a government-run bank. All funds lost…

The weirdest problem I see with this conspiracy theory is that I don't see the actual conspiracy? Like, USD is a fiat currency, it's backed by taxes. The only difference between a paper dollar in your hand, a dollar in a traditional bank account, and a dollar on the hypothetical FedCoin blockchain is how easy it is to spend, what gatekeepers are involved, and what anti-fraud/anti-theft tools you can avail yourself of…

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Re: Setelinleikkaus: When Finns snipped their cash in half to curb inflation

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Unless I miss something, it's very much not a standard measure of inflation. That said, leaning on that "at all": If wages are stickier than expenses, then the gap between wages and expenses will represent recent inflation to some degree.

If inflation is stable (and low-ish), then stickiness doesn't matter. Sticky prices are only important, when expectations are invalidated. So to fix your sentence: > If wages are stickier than expenses, then the gap between wages and expenses will represent recent unexpected inflation to some degree.

I think that's probably right, yeah.

Re: Setelinleikkaus: When Finns snipped their cash in half to curb inflation

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Fascinating piece of financial history I hadn't heard about. Imagine your government telling you to literally take scissors to your money, it's like a weird mix between arts & crafts hour and monetary policy. Though I suppose we're already halfway there with our modern central banks, just without the satisfying snip-snip sounds. The Finnish experiment failing because people just deposited their cash in banks first is…

Turkey dropped six zeroes off their currency in the 2000s. Technically, you could describe that as cutting 999,9999/1,000,000 of their money supply. (Especially if they had done a funny dance like the Finnish, where you would use some scissors to only keep the tiny top left corner of your old notes, and can exchange that for new ones.) In practice, people saw the Turkish currency reform as merely a cosmetic change, n…

> Especially if they had done a funny dance like the Finnish, where you would use some scissors to only keep the tiny top left corner of your old notes, and can exchange that for new ones.

We didn't: we just printed new money, and exchanged it 1 million:1 with the old one.

Re: Setelinleikkaus: When Finns snipped their cash in half to curb inflation

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I live in Norway, most people I know in private life that are of working age do not actually work, and for the most part they have better lives than I do, and I do work. The amount of people on sick leave have absolutely skyrocketed. 60% of welfare benefits in Norway go to immigrants and the population in cities grows faster than new homes are built. The causes and solutions of inflation are not complex. People just…

> I live in Norway, most people I know in private life that are of working age do not actually work

Can't say it any better than this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42244367

Re: Setelinleikkaus: When Finns snipped their cash in half to curb inflation

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Yes. I was surprised to find out that Russia had been conducted sabotage operations against UA artillery ammunitions dumps for many years prior to full scale invasion, and the Ukrainians had already lost the majority of their artillery ammunition reserves this way by the time invasion began.

And they conquered Crimea in 2014--partially, if I remember right, to get a port that doesn't freeze over in the winter, something they have wanted for literally hundreds of years.

I think the underlying drive was more visceral than practical. "Ukraine is ours."

Re: Setelinleikkaus: When Finns snipped their cash in half to curb inflation

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And they conquered Crimea in 2014--partially, if I remember right, to get a port that doesn't freeze over in the winter, something they have wanted for literally hundreds of years.

To be more precise, they already had the port, but were afraid to lose it to the new government of Ukraine. This is also a big reason why Crimea, by and large, supported annexation - it has very large proportions of the population that are either active or retired Soviet/Russian navy.

> This is also a big reason why Crimea, by and large, supported annexation

On what basis is this claim made?

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