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Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Post by wiseowise »

propoganda wrote: post #35
cocacola1 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But shortly after release, Chinese players found a poster hanging in the apartment that serves as the games’ setting that said “Xi Jinping Winnie-the-Pooh moron”. > Almost 10,000 negative reviews soon flooded the game’s review page. The developer, Red Candle Games, posted an apology saying it was “purely an accident” that the poster was left in the game. 10,000 negative reviews is wild for something so banal. I can…

That’s because politicians here have lost your respect to such a degree that it’s unfathomable that you’d have any loyalty to them. It’s understandable of course, but it’s not the case everywhere. Old Russian joke about insulting Reagan in front of the kremlin etc.

Politician is just another administrative job. If you have “respect” to the point where you’re willing to destroy someone over mild insult you need to be isolated from democratic society.

Obviously in this case it was most likely bot farm, but given 1,4 billion Chinese population I wouldn’t be surprised over a couple hundred million brainwashed to the point of frenzy.

Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Post by definitelyauser »

jimbob45 wrote: post #2

My guess is that they’re trying to do it temporarily to boost sales for the WC bundle they’re in as a bonus perk. Blizzard, however, lost the assumption of goodwill by their customers years ago and resultantly, this will not be taken well.

To be fair, Warcraft does need a remaster.

Have you tried replaying it? You can't even RMB to move units, you need to click the move icon then select where.

Warcraft 2 does not (imho), and last time I tried it, Warcraft 2 BNE still worked just fine, so that's probably getting shut down now.

Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Post by hyperman1 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #21
waveBidder wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

like other game companies (cough Nintendo) their old library is viewed as direct competition with their current set of games/subscription products. also wotmrth remembering that Blizzard is now a Microsoft property.

> like other game companies (cough Nintendo) their old library is viewed as direct competition with their current set of games/subscription products. That's nothing special to game companies. All entertainment companies are the same way. That's why they push for longer and longer copyrights. Copyright is what protects Disney from having to compete with its own past work.

Microsoft in the XP era said their main competitors were windows 98 and office 97.

Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Post by wiseowise »

hipadev23 wrote: post #5

I’m really confused what venn diagram they think exists with sizable overlap of “wants to play war1 and war2 again” and “doesn’t mind a greedy company killing off old products to funnel users to re-releases” No thanks Blizzard, my soundcard works perfectly.

Oh, believe me, there’s plenty of those.

Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Post by fifticon »

hulitu wrote: post #30
llmthrow102 wrote: post #14

They've also now launched the Warcraft 3 "remaster" twice, and it's still in a worse state than it was 20 years ago. First they did less than half the job, cut budget, and launched missing major features from the original project, with only some terrible new models to show that look decent up close, but bad from the overhead RTS view. Then they did a relaunch where they did lazy AI upscaling of old models and icons t…

> Really terrible treatment of one of the best game series of all time, and being part of Microsoft hasn't helped. It would have been nice if Warcraft 3 got the same treatment as AoE2 or AoM. Oh, Microsoft, the destroyers of GUIs. I tried AoE 3 on Steam (demo). It was a total disaster. Downloading was slow and then the game: At the first start would not let me build barracks (no suitable place found). At the second s…

my child insists, reasonably, on playing minecraft, so we must endure the microsoft launcher ui stewardship for mc. what a hot mess of bloated bureaucracy-software-dungheap. It is as if even their installer has an installer and a loadscreen. Consider if you, gosh, want to continue PLAYING EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS LAST NIGHT. The launcher design response: ouh, i did NOT expect that! Please wait while we reauth and 2FA and sync your account and download and reinstall your game client.. wait a minute.. hmm, on second thought, Im not SURE we can just let you continue the game from "last night"..? oops, no wait.. WE CAN?! I swear there is more code in, and people assigned to, their crappy bloated launcher, than to the game itself. Ironically, their store features are so buggy I often dven cant manage to buy their DLC theft-as-servjce stuff.

Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Post by hyperman1 »

propoganda wrote: post #35
cocacola1 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But shortly after release, Chinese players found a poster hanging in the apartment that serves as the games’ setting that said “Xi Jinping Winnie-the-Pooh moron”. > Almost 10,000 negative reviews soon flooded the game’s review page. The developer, Red Candle Games, posted an apology saying it was “purely an accident” that the poster was left in the game. 10,000 negative reviews is wild for something so banal. I can…

That’s because politicians here have lost your respect to such a degree that it’s unfathomable that you’d have any loyalty to them. It’s understandable of course, but it’s not the case everywhere. Old Russian joke about insulting Reagan in front of the kremlin etc.

Looking at your username, I have no idea if this is a real comment, a shill for China, a troll, or sarcasm gone of the scales. That's an impressive amount of metagame for a sure-to-be-downmodded comment.

Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Post by dartos »

hyperman1 wrote: post #46
propoganda wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s because politicians here have lost your respect to such a degree that it’s unfathomable that you’d have any loyalty to them. It’s understandable of course, but it’s not the case everywhere. Old Russian joke about insulting Reagan in front of the kremlin etc.

Looking at your username, I have no idea if this is a real comment, a shill for China, a troll, or sarcasm gone of the scales. That's an impressive amount of metagame for a sure-to-be-downmodded comment.

A 9 hour old account too

Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

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Post by 0dayz »

smolder wrote: post #31
llmthrow102 wrote: post #14

They've also now launched the Warcraft 3 "remaster" twice, and it's still in a worse state than it was 20 years ago. First they did less than half the job, cut budget, and launched missing major features from the original project, with only some terrible new models to show that look decent up close, but bad from the overhead RTS view. Then they did a relaunch where they did lazy AI upscaling of old models and icons t…

Blizzard started down the path to failure when they merged with Activision, though I'm not sure they would have lasted much longer outside of that. It's apparent to me the only way "make quality stuff" survives as a strategy long term is to stay private like Valve. Public ownership ruins companies. They grow into inefficient messes and lose any edge they had while alienating their customers in the interest of short t…

Nope, it started waaay before that.

* The sexual misconduct most likely happened way before it came out publicly as all the sleezebags stayed until it was public

* real id debacle

* Diablo 3

* shutting down blizzard north, despite working on d3

* spending 10 years on trying to make starcraft 2, when the rts genre was in a major slump

* x years on the project titan, only to get cancelled

* spent years trying to create a dedicated moba, and hots came out after the hype of the genre was gone

* Cancelling semi-experimental games (the Warcraft Point'n Click Adventure game, the Starcraft: Ghost game, and many others[1])

I'm sure there are more issues/fuck ups blizzard did, the point though is that the company couldn't adapt to the new norms of the industry (some are excusable due to the fuck you money wow gives) and thus became the black sheep.

[1]https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1ft4...

Certain games on that list tbf is way past 2008.

Re: Blizzard's pulling of Warcraft I and II tests GOG's new Preservation Program

#49

Post by breakingcups »

fifticon wrote: post #45
hulitu wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Really terrible treatment of one of the best game series of all time, and being part of Microsoft hasn't helped. It would have been nice if Warcraft 3 got the same treatment as AoE2 or AoM. Oh, Microsoft, the destroyers of GUIs. I tried AoE 3 on Steam (demo). It was a total disaster. Downloading was slow and then the game: At the first start would not let me build barracks (no suitable place found). At the second s…

my child insists, reasonably, on playing minecraft, so we must endure the microsoft launcher ui stewardship for mc. what a hot mess of bloated bureaucracy-software-dungheap. It is as if even their installer has an installer and a loadscreen. Consider if you, gosh, want to continue PLAYING EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS LAST NIGHT. The launcher design response: ouh, i did NOT expect that! Please wait while we reauth and 2F…

Good news! There are alternative, unofficial launchers! Check out Prism or POLYMC for example.
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